[nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines

[Michael Hingson]

I have never seen that level of scanning done to a dog.  I have not heard
that any new scanning techniques are being applied to guides.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of d m gina
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:37 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines

Now my question is the same thing done to a guy.
Where his private area is touched in the same way?
I wouldn't like that either.
Original message:
> I saw on the news the other night an example of the new pat down.  I'd say
> "sexual assault" is quite accurate.  I saw them pressing and squeezing the
> breasts of the women and their hands did touch the genital area.  They use
> their whole hands and fingers to actually manipulate the person's clothing
> and body.  I don't care if the pat downs are done by same sex - it is
> ridiculous!

> I'm glad I have no plans to fly in the near future!

> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines


>> Don't know how this is supposed to work. Is it dangerous for the dogs to
>> go
>> into the scanner?

>> Guess I will see how all this works. Joe and I are flying to Texas for
>> thanksgiving. I am a bit anxious, but not much I can do about it.
>> Yesterday,
>> while on the way to school, there was a radio program with women who
flew,
>> and was having the "pat-down". But from her accounts the "pat-down" is
>> more
>> like being sexually assaulted. And I thought it was just her account of
>> the
>> events but, there were other women calling into the program, saying the
>> same
>> thing. That for women who are being patted-down, the people who touch
your
>> very private areas, and even under the breasts. I understand the need for
>> security at the airport, But. But. But. This is in my opinion; you can
>> take
>> it or leave it, a clear violation of our privacy.

>> And from what I heard and have read, is if someone sets off the metal
>> detector, then you're "patted-down" or full body scanned. Now who of us
>> with
>> our dogs, is not going to set off the metal detectors. I usually go
>> through
>> the metal detector, without my dog. But because she sets it off, I get
>> searched too, not just her. Doesn't make much sense to me.

>> Like I said, just my two cents.

>> Marsha



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
>> Of Toni Whaley
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:39 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: [nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines

>> Hello!

>> Does anyone know what the rules are for blind people with canes or dogs
>> now
>> that the full body machine has been installed in most airports? What do
we
>> do with the dog while we're being scanned? or do we have to submit to the
>> more intrusive patdown?

>> Toni


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