[nagdu] EXTERNAL: Doing the train thing

Mon Oct 4 18:24:07 UTC 2010

Why did GDB advise stepping off in front of the dog? That just sounds
really dumb for all the reasons you state. Has that changed there? Is it
just an example of "Training meets real world" 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:13 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: EXTERNAL:[nagdu] Doing the train thing

When I'm in a situation where my dog and I can't work in the usual
position, such as getting out of a crowded train, I work my dog
"single-file", i.e., I let my dog go out in front of me instead of
walking
next to me.  I can still hold the harness and feel my dog's movements,
so
I know if he's taken a big leap to clear a space between the train and
the
platform, for example.  Personally, I try never to step in front of my
dog.  Been there, done that, fell down to teach me better.  It's
especially true when I'm dealing with subways and subway platforms. 
They're very loud and crowded, and I can't always tell exactly what's
around me.  My dogs have saved me from many stupid mistakes.
So single-file is my preferred method, if necessary. I use it getting on
and off the bus, too.  I used to step off in front of my dog, as GDB
advised, but too many times I found myself stepping into a hole, or
bashing into a pole that the driver had so thoughtfully stopped in front
of.

Tracy

> List,
>
> Living in the northeast, I ride trains a lot. This is how I work my
pup on
> the train. There is not enough room between the isle to work her. So I
> will
> just heal her. When I am going to get off the train, I walk up to the
door
> of the train, feel with my feet, to where the edge is. With our trains
> there
> is usually a 4 to 6 inch gap between the train and the platform. So
with
> one
> foot, I step over first, and then over with my other foot. Then I let
Emma
> come over. I have fallen in between the platform and train, it is very
> scary
> and painful. When I worked with a SE person, they said this was the
best
> way
> to do it. Once off the train completely, me and pup, then I pick up
the
> handle of my harness and go. If there are stairs down to the platform,
I
> go
> down first. I always hold on to the train, rail of the stairs with one
> hand
> with the leash in it too.
>
> That is just the way I do it. I am sure there will be others who have
> other
> ways of doing the train thing, so I like to hear how they do it too.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Weiner
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:12 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dog dragged from SkyTrain sufferedserious
> injuries
>
> Well, guys, as usual, when anything happens to one of our brother or
> sister
> guide dog users, our fellow blind cast blame.
> Some of the comments by fellow listers seem to confirm that
unfortunate
> trend.
> I think what I want to say on this issue is that I feel so sad that
this
> happened.Here's how I think it could have happened...maybe.
> I've bee on trains and subways and there's a gap.  Since working the
dog
> off
> would mean me having to jump,  I've let my dog get off first and then
I
> followed.
> I don't know if I'd do it quite that way after reading this article
about
> such a tragic event.
>
> A mishap and a horrible one.
>
> I know if this happened to me, God forbid a million times,  I'd be
> absolutely in a state of stunned horror for a very long time.
>
> So,  what do people who use trains and subways regularly do when they
> disembark, or when they get on for that matter.
> I've either done the thing I described or worked the dog off depending
on
> what I know about the platform and gap.
>
> Dan W. and the Carter Nut
>
>
>
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