[nagdu] Going to Jail

Steve Johnson stevencjohnson at centurytel.net
Sat Oct 16 21:55:16 UTC 2010


I would assume that the fundamental alteration clause under the ADA2/504 has
a strong possibility of kicking in here.  
JMT
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:09 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail

Marsha,
    We do not know that there is no legal precedence on this. Let's see what
some research deals us! When is the trip? would you like to be part of the
legal precedence?

Fraternally yours,
Marion


if there is
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail


> Thank you everyone for the support. I know its only advice and moral help.

> I
> do wish there was a legal presidence to this, as then my disicion would 
> not
> be as hard, and I would not be going through this. I will keep everyone
> updated on what happens. If the prison does deny me, then I know I have a
> case to go further with.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:27 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail
>
> Marsha,
>
> Ugh!  Sounds like you're in a bind because law enforcement won't obey the
> law...  I can only offer moral support!
>
> Sounds like an interesting project, though.  I hope you are able to do it
> for the sake of your studies.
>
> It's still just awfuly that you're being put in such a position.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marsha Drenth
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:27 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail
>
> Wow, never did know that I would spark such a debate. So here is the 
> update.
> The great news, my professor and my college is standing up for my rights 
> 100
> percent. The sad thing is that the prison I will be visiting, I have been
> told, will most likely not allow my dog. And in fact will go to the extent
> of cancelling the whole trip. Now they won't admit that, I am the reason
> they are cancelling the trip. Apparently the superintendent, does NOT care
> about access or rights of anyone. This is a state ran prison, and even
> though they are ruled by state laws, apparently they do not follow them by
> any means. The college is leaving it up to me on what I want to go or not.

> I
> want to take my guide. I have classes the rest of the day after the trip,
> and don't think I can manage to navigate the campus with her. Before 
> anyone
> jumps on me, I have good cane skills, but my vertigo and hearing loss,
> prevents me from orientating well. The disability office has said, if I do
> not take my guide on the trip and then, come to class they will help me
> around the campus.
>
> So my hands are tied, push to take her. And have the trip cancelled. Or 
> not
> take her, use my cane, but let the prison get away with violating my 
> rights,
> and not be able to get around my campus after the trip. I don't know how 
> far
> to push this, I almost feel like retaining a lawyer. Would there be anyone
> who I could call about this, maybe they could call the prison and advocate
> for me?
>
> Thank you for all the responses. Glad this is become such a debate.
>
> For anyone interested, I chose to go on this trip for my political science
> class. It's a requirement to go on 2 trips. I wanted to go to this prison,
> not for the politicalness of it, but for the psychology. I am curious why
> people commit crimes.
>
> Marsha
>
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