[nagdu] Puppy raising Question

[d m gina]

Hmmmmmmm
Tammy this would mean then no blind person would ever be hired from 
this company with what your thoughts are on the matter?
hmmmmmmm

Original message:
> Diana and Sarah,

> That is my understanding of the matter from a legal perspective, too.

> What I have heard is that many guide dog programs do a lot of outreach and
> make arrangements with businesses and agencies and transit companies and,
> well, just about everybody they can, to gain permission for their puppy
> raisers and trainers to bring the program's pups with them for the sake of
> socialization and exposure to the many environments in which the youngster
> will be doing their work in later life.  I know GDB has done a pretty good
> job of that around the Portland Metro area because of the Boring campus
> nearby.  Which is why I so often have to explain about why my dog isn't
> wearing a green vest when we go places we haven't been before.  /smile/  The
> GDB pups and GDITs wear green vests with the school name and logo so that
> they are easily identifiable.  I guess some clerks and business owners who
> don't see guide dogs all that often assume that it is the vest that makes
> the dog a guide and that there is some legal requirement for all guide dogs
> to wear them.  I tried the short explanation at first -- that's for Guide
> Dogs with a Capital G and Capital D -- but this did not appear to be
> effective at all, since the person didn't grasp the distinction.  Oh, well.
> So I had to come up with a more extended spiel and practice it for next time
> it came up.  /lol/

> So, Diana, I would interested to know -- if your friend is okay with your
> sharing that information -- how the program she is raising the puppy for
> deals with the matter.  Do they get involved in something like this so that
> she can continue to give her pups more exposure to the workplace
> environment?  Or is it up to her to handle those arrangements directly with
> her employer.

> I can't think of many good reason why the employer in this case would change
> things because of a new building, but I suspect it may have something to do
> with the air ducts and environmental systems in the new building.  They
> might have some concern about dander and loose dog hair floating through the
> air ducts into other parts of the building where there might be a problem
> for people with allergies, especially if the building is shared with other
> companies.

> Just a guess.  This is an interesting topic, though.

> Tami Smith-Kinney

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sarah Clark
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:42 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Puppy raising Question

> Hi Diana,
> Unfortunately your puppy raiser friend does not have any rights when it
> comes to bringing her puppy to work.  The right of access goes with the
> handler, not the dog, and it is the blind handler who has the rights, and
> only when the dog has actually completed training as a guide.
> Many puppy raisers are able to bring their puppies in training to stores,
> work, etc, but that is only because the establishment has chosen to allow
> it.  If they don't grant access, the raiser has no legal standing, and
> should probably not push the issue.

> Sarah & Miguel




> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diana Dawne" <drdawne at samobile.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:44 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Puppy raising Question


>> Hi all.  I have a friend who has encountered a problem She currently is
>> raising for one of the large schools on the east coast.  She has done this

>> for many years and always takes her dogs to work with her which I think is

>> what puppy raisers are supposed to do. Her dogs are always the model of
>> correct deportment so there has never ever been an issue over their
>> behavior.  However today her boss called her into his office to explain
>> they were changing offices and he would no longer allow her to bring the
>> dog to work with her.

>> It seems odd to me that if she has done this for many years and there have

>> never been complaints this attitude is strange to say the least.  Does she

>> have any legal rights whatever?

>> Bright Blessings,

>> Diana & that Very Magical and Enchanting Guide Dog Fuller Brush
>> email: drdawne at samobile.net
>> phone toll-free 8775232688

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