[nagdu] follow was Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program

[Tracy Carcione]

Hi Julie.
I'm not sure either, but I think having a conversation with the person I'm
trying to follow helps.  I think it helps keep Ben focussed on the person,
and helps me know if he's getting other ideas and heading elsewhere.
Tracy

> To all of you who have taught the follow command, can you share tips on
> how
> you did it?
>
> I taught Belle, but I don't really remember completely how I did it.  She
> picked it up very easily and was one of those dogs who would follow to the
> exclusion of all else.
>
> I've been working on the concept with Monty off and on for a while now,
> but
> he isn't very good at following.  He wants to be out front and in the
> lead.
> that's fine most of the time, but sometimes I do need him to follow, like
> yesterday when we were following someone in a parking lot to a particular
> car.
>
> Thoughts? Ideas?
> Julie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program
>
>
>> When I got my first dog I taught him to follow on my own. They don't
>> want
>> the dogs to just follow people so they don't risk teaching it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:45 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program
>>
>> Carin,
>> I've known several people who got dogs at Pilot.  They went during the
>> 80s
>> and 90s and they had traffic training and their dogs worked fine as far
>> as
>> I
>> could see.  What I did hear is that they don't teach the "Follow"
>> command.
>> I have since heard that other schools aren't teaching the "Follow"
>> command
>> either.
>>
>> To me, the "Follow" command is a very good one that I use all the time
>> when
>> I'm in a store or just out and about with other guide dog users and I
>> don't
>> know the route - usually inside a mall or store.  Out on the street, I
>> use
>> the regular guide commands.
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karen Alexander" <kalex710 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:42 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program
>>
>>
>>>I spoke with Alec a member of Nagdu and a guide dog handler. I found out
>>> that Pilot Dogs train their dogs for only three months. It seems that
>>> they
>>> are not thoroughly trained with traffic, etc. I am just in the
>>> beginning
>>> state of choosing an organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could used input from anyone on this list regarding Pilot Dogs both
>>> positive and negative.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is a grave concern to me to be given a dog who could put both of us
>>> in
>>> harms way. How can a service dog organization not be called out for
>>> unsafe
>>> dogs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The newbie,
>>>
>>> Carin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karen Alexander
>>>
>>> home:    330 864 8351
>>>
>>> mobile:  330 715 4690
>>>
>>> 710 White Pond Dr #705
>>>
>>> Akron, Ohio 44320
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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