[nagdu] should guides be given asecond ownerifitdoesn'tworkoutwith the first owner?

GARY STEEVES rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca
Tue Apr 19 20:28:07 UTC 2011

Hi Sara:

I'm not sure if Bogart would counter surf but he is very tall and his head is perfectly at table/counter height so I'm sure the temptation must be there. To be honest he is really quite good. I was thinking about that the other day when I left a box of girl guide cookies sitting on the end table, only feet from where he sleeps at night with no worries he'd get into them. So it is just embarrassing when you are at a restaurant and you don't notice your dog has gotten up from his down position, is now sitting like a good boy with his chin resting on the table. :)

I'm hoping to get caught up on my emails eventually but where are you getting your poodle from? You'll love it I'm sure.


----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Clark <goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [nagdu] should guides be given asecond ownerifitdoesn'tworkoutwith the first owner?
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Geez, I know a lot of dogs counter surf -- but I just can't 
> picture it!  The counters are way up there, and the dog is 
> way down there...  I can't imagine them flying through the 
> air like that!
> Obviously Miguel doesn't do it.  He'd occasionally try to 
> grab something if it were at his level, and if it were 
> unsupervised. (he only tries it when he doesn't think he'll get 
> caught).  But I can't imagine him getting something way up 
> onto the counter.  But I learned quickly to not lay stuff 
> on coffee tables and to keep things from the edge of the table 
> when I'm not there, and he hasn't tried to get more creative 
> than that.
> It may be the case that I don't know exactly what I'm getting 
> myself into with this poodle thing...
> Sarah & Miguel
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" 
> <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the 
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] should guides be given asecond 
> ownerifitdoesn'tworkoutwith the first owner?
> >Diana,
> >
> >That is a wonderfully told wonderful story.  What a great dog.
> >
> >I've come to the conclusion with my own guide dog kinda thing --
> who also
> >adores that man of the house -- that her stubbornness is what I 
> value most
> >about her as a guide.  If I had a dog who did what I told 
> it to, I would be
> >in real trouble.  /lol/
> >
> >As for counter surfing...We actually got through both winter holidays
> >without a single pie ending up inside the poodle.  This 
> put us all on edge
> >and made us a little jumpy, because we couldn't believe that 
> would actually
> >happen, but we finally recovered.  So one night, there was 
> some noise in the
> >kitchen, a bit of scrape and something hitting the floor.  
> Tami slept
> >rhrough it.  DD and BB woke up, decided Tami must be 
> walking around and had
> >run into something, and started to go back to sleep...
> >
> >Then they heard another sound (Mitzi must be getting sloppy due 
> to lack of
> >practice) and found a crime in progress and nearly done.  
> So much for the
> >brownies...  It took awhile for them to evaluate the scene 
> of the crime and
> >work out how it all took place.  Those brownies were quite 
> safely out of
> >poodle reach -- we have learned our lessons around here, for 
> sure!  As near
> >as any of us have been able to figure out, she took a flying 
> leap over the
> >stereo onto the counter from the dining room side, thus inadvertently
> >pushing the pan of brownies onto the floor and giving herself 
> away.  Not to
> >be deterred just because the cops were alerted and probably on 
> their way,
> >she followed the brownies into the kitchen and had her way with them!
> >
> >So, bad habit not broken, it seems.  I gotta admit, she is 
> certainly clever
> >and hardworking in the pursuit of her life of crime.  /lol/
> >
> >Tami Smith-Kinney
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> >Of Diana Dawne
> >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:50 PM
> >To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >Subject: Re: [nagdu] should guides be given a second
> >ownerifitdoesn'tworkoutwith the first owner?
> >
> >Hi.  Let me tell you about the magical Fuller Brush.  
> Fuller was 26
> >months when I received him.  he was and is a headstrong 
> hard headed
> >self absorbed creature.  I think maybe he was raised in a 
> barn as his
> >house manners are not wonderful for example he is a sneaky counter
> >surfer and even at 7 he still likes to get into things but he 
> had one
> >exceptional talent.  He is probably the most awesome guide 
> I have ever
> >encountered.  I have had six.  Some of the others 
> probably have equaled
> >his abilities but it took a while to hone their skills whereas Fuller
> >had those skills coming out of the gate.  Honest to God he 
> was born to
> >be a guide and probably a counter surfer too.
> >
> >I did not bond that well with Fuller as he felt as guide he decided
> >what was acceptable and what wasn't and he acted as though 
> anything I
> >did for him was the very least I could do and well below what 
> he the
> >Magic Fuller deserved but what I needed was a guide and he fit 
> the bill
> >perfectly for that so I accepted the rest.
> >
> >When I returned home with him he immediately totally and helplessly
> >fell in love with my husband.  This man was much older 
> than I am and he
> >was beginning that decline none of us wishes to consider.  
> Through that
> >time, Fuller continued to work with me and his guide work was perfect
> >but as my husband began that downward spiral it was Fuller who was
> >close to him.  Although he had children, it was Fuller who 
> loved him,
> >who believed in him when he had self doubts, who comforted him 
> when no
> >one else could reach him, and who held out hope when things 
> looked very
> >bleak.  He is gone now and no one can repay Fuller for the 
> untold>wonderful good deeds he did for this man and although we 
> have had to
> >make some adjustments, Fuller remains the perfect guide or as others
> >have referred to him the bomb and of course he also remains a counter
> >surfer I just have to use a tie down when I plan to leave 
> things on the
> >counter
> >
> >To my knowledge Fuller was not a reissue he also was not extremely
> >young when I got him but he does embody every good trait we 
> hope to see
> >in a guide-- well except the counter surfing!  laughter. 
> He is the
> >Magical and Enchanting Fuller Brush
> >
> >-- 
> >Diana Dawne PHD
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> 18775232688>email: drdawne at samobile.net
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