[nagdu] Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program

[Lisa Irving]

Julie,

I'm applauding you for many reasons including the fact you made it through 
the excel program. I've contemplated going this route next time around.

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program


>I just came home with my forth dog from Guiding Eyes for the Blind and I 
>was in the accelerated training program.  GEB dogs are very well traffic 
>trained and go through a minimum of six months of training.  In the course 
>of 2 weeks we had four or five naturally occurring traffic checks and the 
>first was on the first day of training.  I was very proud of my dog and 
>very happy with the quality of dog I have always gotten from GEB.  Traffic 
>training is important for me because I live in a very heavy  traffic area.
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Grave problems with Pilot Dogs program
>
>
>> Hi Karen.
>> Welcome, newby!
>> If you don't have confidence in Pilot Dogs' training, cross them off your
>> list and look elsewhere. Choice is a wonderful thing!
>> For example, The Seeing Eye's traffic training is top-notch.  It's a good
>> bit of why I chose them for my most recent dog.
>>
>> I think choosing a program in which you have confidence can really help
>> you be successful. Here you are, learning a complex new skill, working
>> with another creature, and I think it helps to have confidence that your
>> dog has been well-trained, and that your instructor knows what he or she
>> is doing.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> I spoke with Alec a member of Nagdu and a guide dog handler. I found out
>>> that Pilot Dogs train their dogs for only three months. It seems that 
>>> they
>>> are not thoroughly trained with traffic, etc. I am just in the beginning
>>> state of choosing an organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could used input from anyone on this list regarding Pilot Dogs both
>>> positive and negative.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is a grave concern to me to be given a dog who could put both of us 
>>> in
>>> harms way. How can a service dog organization not be called out for 
>>> unsafe
>>> dogs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The newbie,
>>>
>>> Carin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karen Alexander
>>>
>>> home:    330 864 8351
>>>
>>> mobile:  330 715 4690
>>>
>>> 710 White Pond Dr #705
>>>
>>> Akron, Ohio 44320
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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