[nagdu] Quick Question

PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC) REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
Tue Apr 26 14:40:55 UTC 2011 

	Mark, 
That's fine. 
I was ojecting more to the usage of the term "responsibility" as in "If you are responsible enough you will put the dog's needs first". 
To me, it is implying that if you decide you don't want to put the dog's needs first, you are not responsible. This is not a true statement, nor is it fair or kind. You can have the morlas of a saint and be very responsible, and still feel that no, you do not want to put the dog's needs first. 


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question

Rebecca, Julie and all



I believe that keeping the dog's needs ahead of my own is a small Pryce to 
pay for the benefits of using a guyed dog. As I said in a previous post, the 
question is not if, but when is the best time. So, I am weighing the merits 
of getting the guyed dog before, during or after freshmen year. Thanks for 
all your advice.



Mark



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question


> Julie, I agree with you on the parties.
> And, I'm also not so sure that "responsible" is the right term. The 
> question is "Do you want to keep the dog's needs ahead of yours"
> Cutting loose with or without "craziness" however you define it is 
> wonderful for your mental health. It can be great to just be with good 
> friends and talk and just be without needing to think "The dog needs to go 
> out" or worry where you place food because the dog might get it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:29 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question
>
> But...how can you truly have the college experience without just a few
> parties? *big smile*
>
> really, you sound all responsible and stuff.  I wish I had been that
> together when I started college.
>
> I think a dog requires a decent level of responsibility.  If the person is
> responsible enough to keep the dog's needs in mind no matter what the
> situation, then I think it can work.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question
>
>
>> Good news is I am not much of a party person. In fact, I can't stand 
>> crazy
>> parties with all the noise and crowds. I am also 19 so a bit older than
>> you were when you started college for the first time. I am an early riser
>> anyway, so the taking the dog out in the morning won't be a problem. I am
>> normally up at 6:00 except those days when it is noon. Lol. But those are
>> not often.
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question
>>
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I never had a guide dog at college.  The first time I went to college I
>>> was 17 and just out of high school.  I enjoyed staying up late, sleeping
>>> even later, staying with different friends and their parents on the
>>> weekends, going to parties and generally enjoying myself.  Having a new
>>> dog in that situation would have been a disaster.  I had no regular
>>> schedule, only stayed at my dorm room weekdays, was constantly running
>>> around visiting new places and new people.
>>>
>>> Then several years later I went back to college.  By then I was married
>>> and had Kiddo.  I could have easily fit a guide into life then.  I lived
>>> in an apartment, had a regular routine,  and was much more settled. I
>>> actually had three pet dogs then.
>>>
>>> At both colleges I attended there were other students that had guide
>>> dogs. One was a younger student with questionable orientation skills.
>>> the other was an older gentleman who had good skills.  Both seemed to be
>>> successful with their dogs at college.  I think the difference was in
>>> their willingness to put the dog before parties and other random college
>>> craziness.
>>>
>>> It's all you though.  Best of luck in whatever you decide!
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 8:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the responses thus far. They are providing food for
>>>> thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark J. Cadigan
>>>> Kramc11 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 8:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>> How do you feel on this subject and why do you feel a given way?
>>>>> I got my first dog shortly after high school. She started college with
>>>>> me and completed it with me too.
>>>>> Looking back, I don't know that it was the right call.
>>>>> I had a few friends that could not adjust to me having a dog.
>>>>> Irronically, now that I am no longer using a dog, these people are 
>>>>> back
>>>>> in my life. One friend and I had the breakup from hell. The dog was
>>>>> only part of the reason why. We are friends again and looking back, 
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> sorry for all the time we lost. I have missed him.
>>>>>
>>>>> My rationale for getting my dog when I did was that everybody I met
>>>>> would know me as having a dog and could either accept or reject the
>>>>> package.
>>>>> Looking back, I'm not sure this is logical. We all change over time 
>>>>> and
>>>>> friendships change over time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd almost urge you to wait, but this is only because of my 
>>>>> experience.
>>>>> Interestingly enough, I met my husband when I had a guide dog. He 
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> really a dog person and we still got together. So if you're not sure,
>>>>> I'd wait.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Lisa Irving
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:32 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quick Question
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> I applaud
>>>>> your maturity, your willingness to seek feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an incoming freshman you will incur many new responsibilities. It's
>>>>> a lot
>>>>> of work to be a college student. It's work whether you are blind or
>>>>> sighted.
>>>>> The fact of the matter, it's even more work when you are blind. Keep
>>>>> this in
>>>>> mind as you weigh your options.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think back to when I was a freshman, back in the 80s.  I think I
>>>>> could
>>>>> have handled caring for my guide dog. What I likely would have had
>>>>> trouble
>>>>> with is not letting my dog become everyone's toy. I think I would have
>>>>> had
>>>>> difficulties living in a dorm and setting boundaries with room mates.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a lot of us on this list who want to see you be successful 
>>>>> as
>>>>> a
>>>>> student as well as being a guide dog handler. Both are huge jobs that
>>>>> take
>>>>> determination, consistency and some tenacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lisa and Bernie ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Quick Question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all. This is Mark with a quick question. Feel free to respond
>>>>>> either on
>>>>>> or off list. I will be attending college at Suffolk University as a
>>>>>> freshman in Boston this September. I have been accepted to attend the
>>>>>> Seeing Eye July class. My question is, should I get a dog now, or
>>>>>> should I
>>>>>> defer it for a year and go to the training the summer before soft 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> year. I can see the merits of both, and just curious as to your
>>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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