[nagdu] hotels

Julie J julielj at neb.rr.com
Thu Apr 28 18:34:49 UTC 2011 

They are not co-workers as in we are both employed by the same entity.  I am 
involved in some of the same projects as some of them.  In that sense, I do 
work with them.

Julie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels


> Are these the folks you work with. I hope not. Dar
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:35 AM, "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I got back yesterday and have been catching up with all the 
>> messages.
>>
>> I will say with absolute certainty that letting the hotel know in advance 
>> of my arrival that I'm blind and have a dog is unacceptable.  I will be 
>> addressing the issue.
>>
>> The whole two days was pretty much  a test of my patience in dealing with 
>> overhelpful people.  Interestingly I had absolutely no problem with hotel 
>> staff, restaurant employees or in any of the shops I went into in the 
>> evening.  All my frustration was with the people attending the 
>> conference.
>>
>> Monty was absolutely amazing!  We hadn't stayed in a hotel for quite a 
>> few months.  Last time he was a bit anxious about all the strange noises 
>> and unfamiliar doings.  He wouldn't play with his toys and took forever 
>> to relieve.  this time he was very content with everything.  He settled 
>> easily under the table during the long meetings.  He relieved superfast, 
>> which I appreciate immensely.  He played with toys in the hotel room. His 
>> guiding was spot on!
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for you thoughts on my situation.  It has helped me 
>> quite a bit in figuring out what exactly I want to say when I talk to the 
>> lady that made my reservations.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owens, Parker" <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>
>>
>>> Of course. However, the university cannot rely on this method, they have 
>>> liability.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Lisa Irving
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:57 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>>
>>> Parker,
>>>
>>> The Resident Assistants are hired to assist everyone, including doormies
>>> with disabilities. Roomies can help one another as well as helping their
>>> neighbors. This is called a natural support. It replaces the need to 
>>> single
>>> out or to exclude some one, particularly some one with a disability.
>>>
>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owens, Parker" 
>>> <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can you see where it gets tricky in a university situation though? Some 
>>>> of
>>>> those kids start before age 18.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:53 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>>>
>>>>   "better customer service" is never a "perk" when it is 
>>>> discriminatory.
>>>> Under Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act,
>>>>
>>>> "Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require an individual with a
>>>> disability to accept an accommodation, aid, service, opportunity, or
>>>> benefit
>>>> which such individual chooses not to accept." (42 USC 12201(d))
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, requiring a person to accept an accommodation because the
>>>> entity
>>>> perceives a "need" for such an accommodation when the person doesn't 
>>>> want
>>>> it
>>>> is considered discriminatory under the ADA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>
>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owens, Parker" 
>>>> <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Here's something you may not have thought of. What if there were a 
>>>>> fire
>>>>> in
>>>>> the building or some other emergency? They may have directives with 
>>>>> the
>>>>> fire and police departments to check specific rooms first. In your 
>>>>> case,
>>>>> no problem. But imagine someone else that needs assistance that has
>>>>> refused the 'accessible' room. You may not like it, but there are real
>>>>> reasons the hotel may want to make the employees aware of your visit.
>>>>> Better customer service is a perk, even though it is unequal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where I work (a university), we have a box of information for 
>>>>> emergency
>>>>> workers at each dorm, that tells the names of students and the 
>>>>> location
>>>>> of
>>>>> the rooms for anyone that might require assistance. It may be a 
>>>>> terrible
>>>>> invasion of privacy, but we are required to do this by the university
>>>>> safety office.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope I am not offending anyone by mentioning the other side of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Julie J
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:18 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] hotels
>>>>>
>>>>> I just had to write a quick vent before I head out for that training 
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> going to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I work for the county, but this training is being paid for through a
>>>>> grant
>>>>> from a regional prevention agency.  They are paying or reimbursing all
>>>>> expenses, which is how I am able to go.  Throughout the year I attend
>>>>> other events sponsored by this agency.  They all know me and of course
>>>>> Monty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the rough spot.  They set up the hotel as a direct bill to 
>>>>> their
>>>>> agency, which means that I didn't make my own reservation.  You know
>>>>> where
>>>>> this is going.  They told the hotel that I'm blind, have a guide dog, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> that I'm very independent and they don't need to worry about me. 
>>>>> AARGH!
>>>>> just AARGH!
>>>>>
>>>>> So I've been told that the hotel has no problem with the dog.  Yeah, I
>>>>> was
>>>>> real worried about that.  I have also been put on the first floor, 
>>>>> which
>>>>> I
>>>>> don't care one way or another about.  But I am oh so relieved to know
>>>>> that
>>>>> the hotel is okay with me coming! *sarcastic smile*
>>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing to be done about it really.  I did try to explain to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> lady who made the reservation for me that all of that extra info was
>>>>> unnecessary and that I'm pretty well  accustomed to speaking up for
>>>>> myself
>>>>> and my rights.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope the next few days are not one long saga like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
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