[nagdu] nagdu using 911 for access denial?

[GARY STEEVES]

Hi Lynn:

I get what you are saying. I've only had one experience since getting Bogart where they didn't want to let us eat in their mexican restaurant. My girlfreind said we should leave since, even though they gave in, they had a negative attitude. Part of me wanted to sit as close to the stupid employee and have my burrito but I agree that my girlfriend was correct in not giving them our money. We went somewhere else where people thought Bogart was great.

Just as a side note the restaurant burnt down a couple of months ago. I'm pretty sure I can account for Bogart's whereabouts that evening but .. hmmmm ...

Gary
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:40 am
Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu  using 911 for access denial?
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Call the police non emergency number. Calling 911 is in a true 
> emergency like someone having a heart attack, had an accident, 
> someone outside your window trying to get in, etc.  To me, 
> an access denial doesn't constitute something to call 911 
> for.  They are already clogged up with the clowns who do 
> 911 prank calls, complain about McDonalds food being cold, etc.
> 
> Besides this, why did you eat at that business if they continued 
> to be disrespectful???  You are actually "rewarding" them 
> for bad behavior.  Go to another restaurant where they'll 
> appreciate your money and treat you right.
> 
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abigail" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu using 911 for access denial?
> 
> 
> >It's funny this should be a topic on the list this week because 
> I had an issue with accessibility at a Thai restaraunt in 
> Charlotte NC on Monday. I made many attempts to explain the ADA 
> to the manager with little success. I don't live in Charlotte 
> and was just visiting for the day.
> >While I was in training with Alexa at GEB they had instructed 
> us to call 911 in instances like this. Granted, it goes without 
> saying that most Asian owned and run businesses are very 
> uneducated about service animals.
> >To make a long story short, I did call the police. We also 
> ended up eating there. I was some what insulted by the way in 
> which the wait staff and manager continued to talk to me and my 
> friend very condescendingly .
> >I felt like I did have responsibility to educate the employees. 
> I plan to mail them some information on working animals and the ADA.
> >What advice does anyone have instead of calling 911 in a 
> situation like this?
> >
> >Abigail
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On Aug 10, 2011, at 1:58 AM, "Criminal Justice Major 
> Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi, Marion,
> >>Very well agreed upon here.
> >>I've heard so many stories of 9 1 1 being misused, especially 
> when people don't get a certain thing they want at a fast food 
> restaurunt.>>That seemed to happen a lot.
> >>Honestly, if I did that 9 1 1 thing during that time when my 
> friend Natalie Orrell and I had a minor problem at an Anthony's 
> here in downtown, Denver two years ago, that, would, have been 
> really STUPID on my end.
> >>Problem was handled appropriately and it was dealt with.
> >>I spoke with the new employee and informed him of tha ADA law 
> and the following day, I contacted the manager and told him what 
> had happened.
> >>I also said to the manager that I simply wasn't looking to get 
> that new employee fired from his job, but more educated.
> >>Now, if I could not have gotten anywhere the evening the 
> incident happened, I then would have gone outtside and called 
> the Police Department immediately upon having the officer on 
> scene read the Access Laws for Colorado on the little booklet 
> which Pilot Dogs had sent home with me in my going home packet.
> >>I also made sure that I had my photo identification with me 
> continuously which Pilot also issued.
> >>There's far better ways of dealing with problems than 9 1 1 
> especially for a non-emergency related matter.
> >>Bibi
> >>
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