[nagdu] nagdu using 911 for access denial?

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Thu Aug 11 17:34:44 UTC 2011


Buddy, I agree with you (but this thread is off-topic, IMHO.)
Tracy

> What's wrong with unfair and unequal service? Everything has a cost. See/
> I told you it was an unpopular opinion.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Dan Weiner wrote:
>
>> What the heck is wrong with unfair and unequal service, it's nice for
>> once
>> that blindness would count in our favor rather than against us.
>> Well, if you like spending $1.25 be my guest.
>>
>> Dan W. and the Carter Dog
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Buddy Brannan
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:04 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu using 911 for access denial?
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> Undoubtedly, this is an unpopular and minority opinion, but I don't
>> believe
>> we are entitled to free directory assistance on our cellphones, nor
>> should
>> we ask for it. Here's my reasoning.
>>
>> Originally, the free directory assistance was set up by the phone
>> companies
>> as an equivalent service. Since we can't read the telephone directory,
>> provided by the telephone company, we would be given a service
>> equivalent to
>> the free telephone directory; namely, the ability to call directory
>> assistance to ask for the number which we cannot look up ourselves.
>>
>> Since no cell phone company gives out telephone directories as part of
>> that
>> phone service, what we would begetting by asking for free directory
>> assistance is not an equivalent service to replace one we cannot access,
>> but
>> an unfair and unequal benefit that is not available to the general
>> public.
>> We are not, in fact, asking for an equivalent service to level the
>> playing
>> field, as it were, but for a special benefit. What justification do we
>> have
>> for needing such a benefit? OK, there are still telephone directories we
>> can't read, but why is that the phone company's problem? Especially in
>> light
>> of tools available to all, such as online telephone directories? Why
>> should
>> the phone company absorb this cost, small as it may be, on our behalf?
>> Do we
>> want equality, or do we want special treatment? I would suggest that we
>> shouldn't ask for special treatment where such treatment is not
>> warranted,
>> unless we are prepared to not be afforded equal and first-class
>> citizenship.
>>
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:15 PM, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you are able to do this in the united states but in
>>> canada I have talked with my cell phone provider, explaining that I am
>>> visually impaired and unable to access normal directories. I have been
>>> able to get them to provide free 411 (information) on my cell phone.
>>> It is charged and then refunded in typical cell phone billing
>>> confusion. :) I'm pretty sure that I've heard on other technology
>>> lists I have been on that cell phone providers in the states would do
>>> this as well. Regardless though, it is a good practice to have the
>>> non-emergency police number in your phones contacts. (I need to do
>>> this myself)
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:44 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu  using 911 for access denial?
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Marion,
>>>> Excellent and great suggestion.
>>>> I've used directory assistance on my cel phone before which did help.
>>>> As for the price of directory assistance, it actually went up to
>>>> $1.50 here in Colorado.
>>>> am not sure about it in other states here in the U.S.
>>>> I have my local Fire Department, Paramedic and Police Departments
>>>> programmed into my contacts on my cel phone.
>>>> If I remember correctly but probably don't 9 1 1 is also programmed
>>>> to where I just speed dial by pressing the 9key and holding it down
>>>> to where I'll automatically get connected.
>>>> Toll free numbers are great for organizations as it does help cut
>>>> down on long-distance charges.
>>>> Bibi and retired Odie
>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>> because he behaves like a wolf at times
>>>>
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