[nagdu] Eye Dog Foundation.

Marion Gwizdala blind411 at verizon.net
Tue Aug 16 00:54:45 UTC 2011


Steve,
    It was not my intention to endorse any specific program, although my 
message certainly appears to be such an endorsement. Very few programs train 
Shepherds and the Seeing Eye was the only one that came to my mind when I 
wrote this message.

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Eye Dog Foundation.


> Marion, I totally agree on the informing of such issues and immediate
> concerns with schools, but we all need to know and understand that the
> Seeing Eye is not the only guide dog school that trains shepherds.  That 
> is
> the point I am trying to make.  I will inform anyone asking me about 
> options
> which schools have shepherds, and most certainly let them know about, 
> issues
> of immediate concern like that with Fidelco, but beyond that, I really 
> don't
> feel it is my place to steer them to one particular school.  Hence, my
> posted concern.
>
> Thanks again,
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:23 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Eye Dog Foundation.
>
> Steve,
>    I am by no means "endorsing" any paticular program. At the same time, I
> believe it is our responsibility to inform people of issues that 
> compromise
> the consumer. Fidelco's ongoing retaliatory behavior toward its 
> stakeholders
>
> and unwillingness to adequately answer the concerns of those who bring 
> them
> forward is a problem that needs to be addressed and exposed. Doing so does
> not endorse any program; it makes consumers aware of issues that are not 
> on
> the surface but need to be considered.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Eye Dog Foundation.
>
>
>> Marion,
>> I am hoping that we are not *endorsing* any particular school as it may
>> appear from this post.  All we should be doing from the NAGDU end is
>> informing consumers of their options, but not necessarily leading them to
>> a
>> particular agency.  Let's empower the consumer to make the best choice on
>> their own, and not lead them down a path that may be based on only a few
>> persons opinions.  I believe that Chantel's recent decision exemplifies
>> this
>> ideology, and I can only reiterate that we as an organization need to
>> refrain from recommending specific schools versus providing information
>> and
>> options so they are well conformed consumers otherwise, we are taking 
>> this
>> independence away from them which clashes immensely with NFB philosophy.
>>
>> Respectfully, Steve
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 2:20 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Eye Dog Foundation.
>>
>> Deanna,
>>    Due to the issues we are currently having with Fidelco, I would
>> strongly
>>
>> suggest avoiding them, as well. Please read my article in the April
>> Braille
>> Monitor. I think that, if this person really wants a German Shepherd, The
>> Seeing Eye is the best bet for this. I know that GDF is working on
>> returning
>>
>> Shepherds to their training strings (I have their first in more than 20
>> years and his sister is a breeder), but I am not sure where they are with
>> this right now. This could be an option, though.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 2:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Eye Dog Foundation.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Deanna.
>>> Don't know if Fidelco will train in Ohio, but I had heard they'd 
>>> expanded
>>> their area quite a bit.  Or, if he went to TSE and specified a shepherd,
>>> he'd probably get one.  At least, everyone I know who's done so has
>>> gotten
>>> one.
>>> HTH.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Howdy to everyone!.Hope you all are
>>>> doing well.
>>>> I am Deanna, and I live in Ohio with my 4 year old black lab, named
>>>> Pascal. I am also chair of the Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users. A
>>>> person in Oagdu is retiring his current dog, and he wants his next 
>>>> guide
>>>> dog to be a German Shepherd. He is strongly considering the Eye Dog
>>>> Foundation, which I had never heard of.before. They only offer German
>>>> Shepherds. Does anyone on here know any good (or bad) things about this
>>>> school? Thanks for any advice.
>>>> Deanna and Pascal
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