[nagdu] School Contracts

[Jeffrey Young]

At TSE you have to sign and return the ownership agreement before you go for your dog. I don't know how many other schools do this, but I think it is something that should be a general practice.

I agree with Marian that the school retaining ownership is paternalistic, furthermore I believe it to be a condescending and demeaning policy. I know TSE grants ownership upon graduation, what other schools do this?

Thanks

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On Aug 20, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Sherry Gomes wrote:

> GDB sends the contract as part of the student's acceptance package, so you
> have it even before you go for training.  Unless things have changed in the
> last couple years, you can request ownership after a year.  I never cared
> about it in the past, as to me, mostly, it's just a piece of paper, and
> there's no difference in the benefits.  But, for personal reasons I won't
> discuss on a list, I asked for ownership of Olga as soon as my year was up
> and I have  the piece of paper to show that she is mine.  It's unconditional
> ownership, thank God.
> 
> Sherry
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:16 PM
> To: doggie
> Subject: [nagdu] School Contracts
> 
> Well said Marion and you are right!  My experience at Pilot was that parts
> of the contract were talked about throughout the training and a couple of
> days before we got our dogs it was read to us.  Of course, if we didn't
> sign, we didn't get the dogs so again, you are perfectly right!  The point
> is whether or not you care where the ownership goes, be familiar with the
> contract before signing.  If we asked, we could have seen the contract early
> in the training.  As far as abuse goes, again you are perfectly on target!
> The schools seem to be slower to react than the community but the community
> doesn't want to touch the idea of abusing a service dog.  Someone in this
> area is clearly abusing there dog and he has been reported to the Humnane
> Society and other county authorities.  Thes people have done nothing!  I
> don't know the person but I heard of the situation while sitting in front of
> a local restraunt.  I was petting and generally messing with Holly, sort of
> playing with her while waiting for friends.  A woman was amazed I was doing
> this because all she saw was a dude yelling, dragging and hitting his dog.
> I informed her that most of us deffinately did not do this and she told me
> the story.  I told her to if she could look at the tag and see what school
> the dog came from.  Don't know what happened.  Cindy, that's why you should
> demand to have whatever is not understood in the contract to you.  If the
> thing says we can take your dog because we want to and you sign it, well, I
> think they can!  
> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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