[nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service dog will recover

Sun Aug 28 21:32:55 UTC 2011

Well, I will be happy to go to war on your behalf, but would prefer
Benny boy keep on preventing that. /smile/

Probably a good start as to reminding drivers that they should look
before they steer that big hunk of metal would be to crack down hard and
fast when they don't. And maybe if the news report about their
destructive negligence didn't make it sound like this all just happened
while they were sitting there in their car wouldn't hurt, either. If
they don't care about the consequences of their actions on others, then
ensuring they face consequences that are meaningful to them would d
encourage them to pay attention -- and might encourage others to
consider whether they wish to remain as negligent. I mean, if they're
the ones who are going to get hurt by having to pay money and spend time
in jail and have all those mean things said about them...! Well, they'd
better be careful.

The article we're all discussing here is a really good case in point.
All the vague verbs and adjectives and measures of time and force, along
with point of the report being apparently that the guy was real sweet
but, hey! the dog will recover! could have been about the driver of a
car that struck a pedestrian resulting in his death might give a
different impression? If nothing else, the first driver might feel bad,
so that's something. If we're going with all those emotionally laden
adjectives, why not go ahead and toss in "irresponsible" "careless"
"negligent". The irresponsible driver of the vehicle that struck the
pedestrian... Etc. As for the second driver... Maybe we could try, "
who also failed to watch out for what was in front of him..." or
something.  Both drivers waited until it was too late to get out of
their vehicles and offer assistance. See? If you put it like that, it
doesn't make everything okay, does it? /evil grin/

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 10:46 -0400, Tracy Carcione wrote: 
> I've been thinking about all the cases I've heard of recently where a
> blind guy was run over, and the great majority were some idiot turning on
> top of the guy.  Apparently, drivers don't look before they turn.
> This is consistent with my own experience.  Several times a month, Ben has
> to stop and let some turner whiz in front of us.  Which is pretty
> depressing, considering that seems to be how most people get hit.  So, if
> I get hit, I authorize anyone and everyone to sue the socks off the
> driver.
> Is there anything we can do to get drivers to actually pay attention where
> they're aiming that half-ton of steel?
> Tracy
> 
> > Why were these cars going fast enough to not be able to slow down and/or
> > swerve?    I think the first assailant stopped to "help" when the second
> > vehicle re-hit the victim.  What's up with that?  How did the second
> > driver hit the man and the dog? Ththat's a lot to hit especially with
> > the first car already in the area.
> >
> > Isn't there a law or something about failure to maintain control of a
> > vehicle?  My brother got cited for backing into another car in a parking
> > lot going slow but the other person pulled in front of him and he still
> > got cited.
> >
> > My husband always looks out for pedestrians and bike riders because you
> > never know when one could step in front of you.  To bad more people
> > don't drive like my husband.  But wait, my husband drives a hybrid
> > hylander.  However, he had this driving mentality before we got the
> > hybrid and he taught his 2 kids this principal.
> >
> > I know - the blind guy was probably wearing dark clothes.  Where was his
> > reflective vest. /sarcasm.
> > Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/26/2011 6:21 AM, cheryl echevarria wrote:
> >> Julie it was an accident, from reading the story, that the first car
> >> should
> >> have slowed down when making a turn maybe couldn't swerve enough, the
> >> trucker who knows.
> >>
> >> If it was on purpose then they would have been arrested, I am sure that
> >> the
> >> 2 were questioned at the accident. I mean police had to be called in
> >> situations like this.
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> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Julie Phillipson"<jbrew48 at verizon.net>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian;his
> >> service
> >> dog will recover
> >>
> >>
> >>> that was my first thought too.  Why are there no charges the driver of
> >>> the
> >>> truck didn't see what happened right in front of him?  Give me a brake!
> >>> Julie Phillipson
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Tracy Carcione"<carcione at access.net>
> >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:28 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his
> >>> service
> >>> dog will recover
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Of course neither driver has been charged.  I bet neither one ever
> >>>> will
> >>>> be.  It seems like killing a blind guy is a no-fault non-crime. Too
> >>>> bad,
> >>>> so sad, oh well.
> >>>> I'm really getting sick of it.
> >>>> Tracy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service dog will
> >>>>> recover
> >>>>>
> >>>>> August 24, 2011
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-neighbors-mourn-pedestrian-blind-man-killed-wh
> >>>>> ile-service-dog-recovers-20110824,0,6132815.story
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RICHMOND (WTVR)-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neighbors of a blind Richmond man are mourning his accidental death.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "He was one of the sweetest neighbors that you would want in your
> >>>>> community," said neighbor Dianna Harrison.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seventy-four year old Dudley Mines will be missed. Neighbors say you
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> see him and his seeing eye dog Romeo walking their streets several
> >>>>> times
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> day.  He was doing just that Monday night. He was crossing the road
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> corner of Old Brook and Bellvue Road in North Richmond. A car turning
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> corner grazed Mines and knocked him over. Moments later a truck would
> >>>>> make
> >>>>> the turn and run over Mines and his dog. Both drivers stopped to help
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> was too late. The accident killed Mines and left Romeo with serious
> >>>>> injuries.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "We just want to thank God for the time he allowed him in our lives,"
> >>>>> said
> >>>>> Harrison.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neighbors are preparing for a vigil tomorrow night. Mines three
> >>>>> children
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> also involved in the planning. Signs of sympathy lay outside his home
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> there's been sympathy shown in other ways too..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "There was really a coming together to help Romeo," said Veterinarian
> >>>>> Nathan
> >>>>> Lippo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The six year old black lab suffered cuts, bruising and a broken leg.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "With some pain medication some fluids and antibiotics he turned
> >>>>> around
> >>>>> pretty quickly became stable very quickly," said Lippo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wednesday the dog had surgery to secure his leg. Lippo says the
> >>>>> relationship
> >>>>> between a seeing eye dog and it's owner is a special one and is
> >>>>> sometimes
> >>>>> irreplaceable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "These seeing eye dogs lived with owners for a long time so long
> >>>>> Romeo
> >>>>> has
> >>>>> lost a member of his family," said Lippo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A funeral for Dudley Mines will be held on Saturday at 2pm Watkins
> >>>>> funeral
> >>>>> home. Neither driver has been charged in the incident. Police say
> >>>>> their
> >>>>> investigation is ongoing. Mines daughter says once he recovers she
> >>>>> plans
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> adopt Romeo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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