[nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guidedog fromtraveling with him

Fri Dec 2 13:28:09 UTC 2011

Marian
You mentioned that a hospital or ambulance could refuse to deal with a service animal if the handler doesn't take appropriate action. What if the handler *can't* take appropriate action? "Doesn't" implies that the handler doesn't give a damn, can't implies that the handler is in some seriously bad shape.
Can you explain what would happen if a handler was unconscious or was in some form of shock or otherwise experiencing impaired judgment?

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:13 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guidedog fromtraveling with him

Natalie,
    Some time in the very near future, there will be an article in one of
the major peer-reviewed professional journals for providers of emergency
medicine concerning service animals in what is referred to as
"pre-hospitalization treatment and transportation". My agreement with the
journal is that it may be published in the Braille Monitor 30 days after it
is published in the journal. This will help better educate first responders
to this issue. I have also written model policies for ambulances and
hospitals concerning service animals and these policies are being submitted
to the Baltimore Fire Rescue services and will be made available to such
entities.
    Not all service dogs wear special gear, so the presence of a harness or
other identifying gear is not a prerequisite for service. The same guidance
applies to ambulances as with other public and private entities. They may
ask if the person has a disability, if the  dog is a service animal, what
tasks the animal is trained to perform, and how the animal was trained.
Unless it can be demonstrated that the service animal poses a direct
threat - a significant risk to the health or safety of others that cannot be
eliminated by a modification of policies, practices, or procedures - or the
animal is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to
correct the behavior, an individual with a disability accompanied by a
service animal must be allowed the same access as others. HTH!

Fraternally yours,
Marion

----- Original Message -----
From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guidedog
fromtraveling with him

> So, is the way for the emergency responders to know by way of the harness?
> Just curious.  I've heard of other horror stories of handlers being
> separated from their guide dogs.
> Best,
> Nat and Liam Joshua
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guidedog
> fromtraveling with him
>
>
>> Not always possible if you are in shock or panicked. Or if you can't
>> speak.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Natalie
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:51 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guide dog
>> fromtraveling with him
>>
>> This is just so wrong, no matter which way you cut it.  Fortunately, I've
>> never had to be transported by ambulance in all the times I've worked a
>> guide dog, but if I did, I'd inform the dispatcher I'm totally blind and
>> I
>> have a guide dog on scene.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ginger Kutsch" <GingerKutsch at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:29 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guide dog
>> fromtraveling
>> with him
>>
>>
>>> Blind man says paramedics prevented guide dog from traveling with him
>>>
>>> Veteran, 62, had been traveling to parade when struck by car
>>>
>>> By Julie Scharper, The Baltimore Sun
>>>
>>> http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-ambulance-
>>> service-dog-20111121,0,4352653,print.story
>>>
>>> 11:53 p.m. EST, November 21, 2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A 62-year-old blind man has filed a complaint with the U.S. Department
>>> of
>>> Justice claiming Baltimore paramedics refused to allow his service dog
>>> to
>>> accompany him in an ambulance after he was struck by a car.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curtis Graham Jr., a Marine who served in Vietnam, was on his way to the
>>> city's Veterans Day parade on Nov. 11 when he was hit by a car near his
>>> West
>>> Baltimore home. Paramedics would not allow Indo, his 2-year-old golden
>>> Labrador retriever, into the ambulance, Graham said.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "They refused to take a service animal who I need very much," said
>>> Graham,
>>> who suffered minor injuries. "He is my eyes."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Baltimore City Fire Department spokesman Kevin Cartwright said the
>>> incident
>>> was under investigation. He confirmed that a blind man was struck by a
>>> car
>>> and taken to a hospital by ambulance, and said he believed the victim's
>>> guide dog had not been transported.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cartwright said that to his knowledge, the department did not have a
>>> policy
>>> on service animals.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A spokesman for the National Federation for the Blind said first
>>> responders
>>> are "legally obligated to transport the service animal" under Maryland
>>> law.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "You're basically taking the blind person's way of understanding his
>>> environment away from him," said federation spokesman Chris Danielsen.
>>> "I
>>> have no idea what sort of irrational thought process was behind not
>>> letting
>>> the dog in the ambulance, but that is an act of discrimination," he
>>> said.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham said he had planned to take the subway to join in the city's
>>> Veterans
>>> Day parade, then head to the National Aquarium, where he volunteers at
>>> the
>>> information desk. Graham, a retired bus driver, has relied on a guide
>>> dog
>>> since 2006, when he lost his sight to glaucoma.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham said he and Indo were crossing Cold Spring Lane near Dolfield
>>> Avenue
>>> when a car making a left turn plowed into them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "My dog took the blow because he was trying to protect me," he said. "By
>>> the
>>> grace of God, he wasn't hurt."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham said he was flung onto the hood of the car and carried about 10
>>> feet
>>> before he rolled off. Paramedics quickly arrived and strapped Graham to
>>> a
>>> board to stabilize him, but balked when he said Indo needed to accompany
>>> him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "They were going to leave my dog on the pavement, and I wasn't going to
>>> have
>>> it," he said. "I said, 'The hell you ain't. He's a service dog.' I said,
>>> 'If
>>> you don't take my dog, I ain't going.'"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham eventually called the apartment complex where he lives, and a
>>> maintenance worker came to retrieve Indo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "He was upset and I was upset," Graham said of the dog. "He didn't want
>>> to
>>> go as they were taking me away in the ambulance."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Danielsen said guide dogs are highly trained and would not cause
>>> problems
>>> in
>>> an ambulance or a hospital. And, he said, it's a misdemeanor to separate
>>> a
>>> guide dog from a blind person.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham was taken to Sinai Hospital, where doctors determined he had
>>> bruises
>>> and swelling. He was treated and released. Graham said it was
>>> disorienting
>>> to be in the hospital without his guide dog.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "As far as I'm concerned, they violated my civil rights," he said.
>>> "We're
>>> partners, and it's against [the] law for them to separate the team."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> julie.scharper at baltsun.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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