[nagdu] Some one stole my cane !

Brenda bjnite at windstream.net
Wed Dec 21 15:48:26 UTC 2011 

Rebecca
My husband does not get a vote, never said he did, but he does express 
his opinion.  I am knowledgable and can process his fears and go on with 
my life using a cane and other adaptive strategies.  But the man with RP 
may not be able to process things the way I have.  Each person is in 
their own place in life.  I think you are the one that first mentioned 
him.  Maybe you could befriend h im on all levels and gently work in 
cane issues.  In order for people to make positive informed decisions 
they need a safe place to learn new ideas and time to process and grow.
Brendaand guidance



On 12/21/2011 10:34 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
> Thank you for this.
> As for husbands (and wives probably) not liking something, mine doesn't like it when I vote Republican. He says it makes me look like an Idiot. I ignore him.
> Brenda, and Tracy, why do the husbands get a vote? An expression of opinion is fine, but it isn't another adult's place to "let" me do something. I have to wonder about the power dymanics at play. Not using a cane makes you way more venerable then a cane ever did.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brenda
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:46 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>
> Actually, I wonder if the person with RP can see enough to navigate
> tolerably.  People can tell if you have some remaining vision.  I was
> told by a mobility instructor "you have more vision then you realize."
> That comment alone made me consider putting my cane away and I
> questioned my attendance at the training.  A friend pointed out they
> would never had accepted me if they felt I didn't need the help, but my
> instructor's comment really bothered me.  For partial sighted people who
> could benefit from a cane maybe the fact that we are treated as fakers
> is a deterrent to using a white cane.  The transition to cane use is a
> personal process that each person including this person with RP has to
> go through.  Just walking down the street I can see well enough to walk
> a straight line.  Actually I think I walk straighter because of my cane,
> but I still feel guilty about using a cane because i have residual
> vision.  It isn't an easy thing to just start using a cane.  Another
> issue, my husband says when i carry my cane I am a target because people
> see that I am blind.
>
> Maybe the man with RP has never been given the opportunity and
> introduction to O&M because he has some residual vision so the rehab
> people in his state expect him to rely on his vision.  I was never given
> the option to learn to use a white cane and no counseling in the pros
> and cons.  When I made the decision for myself based on my life's
> knowledge, I saught the help I needed.  this man may not have had the
> exposure.
>
> Brenda
>
>
>
> On 12/20/2011 9:34 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who think it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude, slow-witted, or any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they are blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less capable, less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly) less of a human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted and [insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as blind. Much better.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>
>>> Can you guys explain?
>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's drunk. I told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he doesn't "need a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking he's wasted.
>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>
>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one realized I was
>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness. Which of
>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis Pigmentosa.
>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went camping with
>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking stick. I did
>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still very helpful.
>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain. Thing is, I
>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had 20/200
>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is heavier. I did
>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at a family
>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm hurt a lot
>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or something. LOL,
>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a free one
>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one of those
>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I have a
>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>   wrote:
>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as the average
>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or acquaintances would
>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some mental midget or
>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate grabbing my
>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new to this
>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know where to get a
>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they saw me using
>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me. If I'd had
>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I was using.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs? I treat canes
>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few backups that meet my
>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang onto them,
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for a cane that is
>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too small.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you keep the cane
>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the strap around your
>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage the list
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you get a new cain
>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the other day
>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster type of pouch
>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is quite snug
>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left the store and
>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get into the
>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I had it when I
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus station and the
>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me is getting
>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a cane from me.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another one until next
>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane as a back up.
>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long NFB cane as
>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would be fine if I
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It also has a
>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in the face.I don't
>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's cane??????? Fake
>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to this world.
>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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