[nagdu] things that go bump in the night

Fri Dec 23 15:27:10 UTC 2011

Chicken!!!  Actually, there are many opportunities to take pictures and/or 
movies of situations which may be harmful, or potentially so, aside from 
doing the David and Goliath confrontation with an on-coming vehicle.  I'll 
let the list generate some before I present my meagre thoughts.

Doug: Got a great picture of your undercarriage!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night

>I am pretty sure that when a car is gunning its engine and moving toward 
>me, about the last thing I'm thinking of is taking a picture. I'm just out 
>of there.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Doug Parisian wrote:
>
>> With all the talk about killer drivers, real imagined or other, could we 
>> not bring technology to bear to help at least trap some of the offenders.
>>
>> Many cell phones, like some android offerings and the apple IPhone 4GS 
>> actually give audio prompts to help manage the camera.  Yup, you guessed 
>> it; a picture is worth a thousand words.  Would such photos be allowed as 
>> evidence and a means of catching the offender, let alone possibilities 
>> for use on social media.  No damn, I don't have one of those awesome 
>> devices--yet!
>>
>> Doug: Hey driver, say cheese!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 7:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>
>>
>>> If a driver is zooming towards a blind person in the crosswalk, the 
>>> driver
>>> is breaking the law.  The blind person has the right of way.  Not that
>>> that matters to you, if you get hit by some jackass.  I was sure 
>>> surprised
>>> when I read New Jersey's white cane law and saw that drivers are 
>>> supposed
>>> to yield to me and not enter the crosswalk when I'm in it.  It was news 
>>> to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> OK, but that is what they are doing. They are not following proper 
>>>> driver
>>>> etiquette or safety rules. They are not out to get a blind guy. I just
>>>> think that when we start down that path, we can become too paranoid. 
>>>> There
>>>> are plenty of other instances where people really don't care if we have
>>>> our needs met and where they truly think we are incapable and on and 
>>>> on. I
>>>> certainly am not saying stuff like that doesn't happen; I'm just saying
>>>> that that is a rather iffy path to take saying they are out to get a 
>>>> blind
>>>> guy.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, Cindy, if a car comes roaring out while I am crossing, I kind of
>>>>> assume they can see that I'm crossing!  Especially when I hear it pull
>>>>> out of the lot and get into the lane I'm currently occupying!  If they
>>>>> weren't triing to hit me they wer sure not following proper driver
>>>>> edicate!  They should have seen me before they pulled out and for sure
>>>>> when they started moving down the road!  They were also speeding out 
>>>>> of
>>>>> there!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you guys know that someone tried to hit you on purpose? What
>>>>>> cues do you have about it? Do they hate dogs? Did you seem to look
>>>>>> funny to them right then? How do you know these people aren't just
>>>>>> flakes and that a sighted person equally flaky could have been 
>>>>>> walking
>>>>>> along and almost gotten hit or, in fact did? As for people trying to
>>>>>> drag you by the other end of your cane or the harness, that is rather
>>>>>> different. I actually had the harness thing happen to me the other
>>>>>> night. I am not sure I ever had before. Another woman there was about
>>>>>> as offended as I was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds kind of familiar!  I've had folks pick my cane up off the
>>>>>>> ground and try to tug me along, pull my dog and I away from 
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> they thaught we'd run into and once even someone who tried to hit me
>>>>>>> on purpose!  Sure keeps you awake and alert!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "harold leigland"
>>>>>>> <hleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:08 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> using a cane or dog has been an adventure for me; when our son was 
>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>> we were both hit and knocked down by a drunk soldier from the base 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> his suv not seriously injured and saved the 2 12 packs of coke I 
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> with us. The other day someone kept trying to back over me and Sam 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> guide dog in our apartment parking lot aint life grand? merry
>>>>>>>> Christmass and better new year hal
>>>>>>>>
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