[nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
Larry D. Keeler
lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Dec 26 01:52:31 UTC 2011
So you do recognize the song! I have lots of oldies but strangies on my
computer and phone! Like, ""How much is that Doggie in the Window". We had
a lot of fun wiith that one at Pilot!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
> Oh Charlie and the MTA. Didn't like it that much except the part that
> says, "And through an open window she hands Charlie a sandwich as the
> train comes rumbling through." hahahaha.
> Cindy
>
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>
>> The song! Its the Kingston Trio!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>
>>
>>> Has what on your phone? 49 or their age? No way my age is going to be on
>>> my phone.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, I'm 49 and I'll bet I'm the only one who has it on my phone!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak"
>>>> <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Charley on the MTA" was a very popular song in the late 1950s or
>>>>> early 1960s - think it was sung by the Kingston Trio. So, yeah,
>>>>> anyone over at least 55 would remember it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is amazing how much more crowded the streets in Boston are compared
>>>>> to San Diego. Sometimes I really have to look hard for a crowded
>>>>> place to give Landon crowd practise. Usually street fairs work well
>>>>> and sometimes at the Embarcadero when a cruise ship is in port and it
>>>>> is a wonderful weekend day when the sun shines and the temps are in
>>>>> the mid 70s during the summer. Most people drive here and don't walk -
>>>>> or rather it is hard to walk some places because Southern California
>>>>> is so geared to cars rather than walking, biking, or puplic
>>>>> transportation.
>>>>> Landon likes the crowds so he isn't bored and has alot to watch out
>>>>> for than a boring walk in the neighborhoods - except for Hillcrest -
>>>>> where there's hardly any people on the sidewalks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lol. True. Funny how so many people from all over the country know
>>>>>> about this song.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>>>>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, you can get off the thing and not have you're lunch thrown
>>>>>>> every day!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:36 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I would
>>>>>>>> assume so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00 to
>>>>>>>> ride the commuter rail, something similar for the boat, just under
>>>>>>>> 2 bucks for the subway, busses, Greene line trolley, and whatnot.
>>>>>>>> Parking at one of the T stations is also quite expensive. However,
>>>>>>>> parking in the city can run up to $50 a day depending ware u are
>>>>>>>> parking. At the parking lot next to my doarm it is $30 a day.
>>>>>>>> Prices around hear are ridiculous.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
>>>>>>>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was only
>>>>>>>>> 15 cense
>>>>>>>>> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like that
>>>>>>>>> now. It
>>>>>>>>> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my
>>>>>>>>> "Charley
>>>>>>>>> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire
>>>>>>>>> life, and
>>>>>>>>> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't
>>>>>>>>> because I put
>>>>>>>>> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to convince
>>>>>>>>> my dad to
>>>>>>>>> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe the
>>>>>>>>> reactions,
>>>>>>>>> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me no
>>>>>>>>> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to
>>>>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as
>>>>>>>>>> wwell!
>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks
>>>>>>>>>> liked what
>>>>>>>>>> they saw! Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning!
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> understand your feelings though. I myself have never really
>>>>>>>>>>> cared about
>>>>>>>>>>> what everyone else thaught. Yah, I was always kind of cocky
>>>>>>>>>>> that way. I
>>>>>>>>>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981,
>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>> gave my cane to a roommate. He was really unnerved by everyones
>>>>>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>>>>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his
>>>>>>>>>>> keepper!
>>>>>>>>>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the
>>>>>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>>>>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope
>>>>>>>>>>> they like
>>>>>>>>>>> what they're seeing! Especialy the girls!!
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> visually impaired or blind. That is the stigma of blindness
>>>>>>>>>>>> talking!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and
>>>>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own. Previously to that, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation
>>>>>>>>>>>> at all
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car. If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so
>>>>>>>>>>>> I never
>>>>>>>>>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had
>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen
>>>>>>>>>>>> one before! The blind people I grew up with never used canes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>> went sighted guide with family members. At that time I could
>>>>>>>>>>>> see quite
>>>>>>>>>>>> well although I was still legally blind. I could get around
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty well
>>>>>>>>>>>> without any travel aids. But at night, I had NO vision and
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Halloween where I
>>>>>>>>>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and
>>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check! I felt that
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it. With the
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem. So, I realized
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen because
>>>>>>>>>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them
>>>>>>>>>>>> in court
>>>>>>>>>>>> or to a police officer. I think we just have to be more
>>>>>>>>>>>> cautious and
>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before
>>>>>>>>>>>> audible
>>>>>>>>>>>> signals, folks! With the cane, people didn't think this way
>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>>>>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers license. The driver gives up freedom and mobility.
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> crowd without
>>>>>>>>>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get
>>>>>>>>>>>> killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before
>>>>>>>>>>>> using a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found
>>>>>>>>>>>> it very
>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that
>>>>>>>>>>>> my eyes
>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't give me. Although I prefer using a dog, I still do
>>>>>>>>>>>> use my cane
>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrestle a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-witted, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less
>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> less of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. Much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drunk. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't "need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realized I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pigmentosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thing is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20/200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavier. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquaintances
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental midget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grabbing my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saw me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'd had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backups that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strap around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite snug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be fine if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the face.I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane???????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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