[nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention

Albert J Rizzi albert at myblindspot.org
Wed Feb 2 11:40:51 UTC 2011 

Cindy,

You are right, we are all very close to being able to drive, but your point
of the can'ts is not lost on me. we cannot use many sites out there because
no one is holding companies and entities to the law. I say this as a man who
oh so misses driving, but what good is driving going to do for us if when we
get to work, or the bank or anywhere and we are still not able to access the
virtual world with our assistive technologies. I am all for the driving
thing, but when will there be a movement toward enforcing and ensuring the
virtual public accommodations which would allow for an independent lifestyle
full of fiscal independence, shopping experiences, and work opportunities?

Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:56 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention

You know what else, and this is a little off topic. We are inches away from
driving cars, well that may be an exaggeration. But anyway, we still an't
use the tools at the Weight Watchers web site. LOL

On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> The irony of this didn't escape me either, Cindy. 
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
> 
>> Boy, I'm staying on *my* side of the street after reading this. LOL. You
know, that car was a "quiet car." 
>> 
>> Cindy
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Tamara Smith-Kinney wrote:
>> 
>>> Fine!  Rain on my parade with boring reality.  /grin/
>>> 
>>> I have to confess, I enjoy my silly little unrealistic image of whizzing
>>> down the road (with a shiny red convertible model, naturally!) with my
>>> poodle in her doggles riding shotgun while we boogie to music on the
radio.
>>> 
>>> You know how I was talking earlier about adults who don't grow up?  I
hope I
>>> did not mistakenly imply that I am not one of them.  /lol/
>>> 
>>> It will be interesting to see how the technology comes along to support
the
>>> car itself, though.  Seems to me, just at a glance, that there would be
>>> benefits to more than just us blind people who want to drive.  There
could
>>> be benefits in terms of lessening of traffic congestion (yeah, I dream),
>>> improved traffic safety, improved pedestrian safety...  Which would
improve
>>> life for this blind person who sometimes just wants to walk a mile up to
the
>>> store for fun but has to consider the safety factors seven ways from
Sunday,
>>> consult the time of day, weather, horosocope...  Then wonder if it's
worth
>>> being lectured by walking beside a killer road (roads don't kill people;
>>> idiot drivers kill people; often, on this road), etc.  We will not talk
>>> about trying to cross the road.
>>> 
>>> So maybe the car blind people can drive would also be a car idiots can
drive
>>> safely?  Or if the car tells them there's a pedestrian crossing the
street,
>>> will they still drive right over it and ignore the thump?  /evil grin/
>>> 
>>> I did hear on the news just last week about an up and coming technology
that
>>> will allow drivers to join a caravan electronically and leave the
driving to
>>> the lead vehicle while you read a good book, the reporter pointed out
>>> seriously.  Then, of course, the anchors had fun by listing all the
things
>>> drivers really do in their cars while their driving:  text, read the
funny
>>> pages, do the crossword, put on mascara, drink coffee from one hand and
eat
>>> a donut from the other.... They didn't include changing the baby's
diaper on
>>> the way to daycare, but I have seen that done.  
>>> 
>>> Hm...  So I wonder if the cars of the Blind Driver challenge would help
at
>>> all with the idiot driver challenge?  Now that I've thought about it, I
may
>>> never the cross the street again, though.  I've given myself a case of
the
>>> wild willies for sure!
>>> 
>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
>>> Of Buddy Brannan
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:24 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
>>> 
>>> No, there's no strip in the road. Speed strips" are vibraing things that
are
>>> in a cushion under the driver's legs and up his back. These give
information
>>> about whether he can speed up or slow down. The files on
blindbargains.com
>>> are fantastic. BTW, I doubt that any blind people will drive the car on
the
>>> open road. Putting aside the whole issue of not having driver's licenses
and
>>> not being insured, I really don't think that the technology is quite
ready
>>> for real world use. Probably won't be for some time yet. And count on
legal
>>> hurdles and red tape beyond that before we can actually have a car that
we
>>> can drive, and never mind the cost of having such a car modded. Think a
van
>>> with a wheelchair lift is expensive? I'd bet this will be more. 
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:23 PM, cheryl echevarria wrote:
>>> 
>>>> neither did I.
>>>> 
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>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: Albert J Rizzi<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org> 
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I did not hear anything  about needing a strip on the road  or anything
>>> like
>>>> that to tell you the truth. 
>>>> 
>>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>> Founder
>>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>>> New York, New York  10004
>>>> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>>>> PH: 917-553-0347
>>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
>>> is
>>>> doing it."
>>>> 
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:13 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
>>>> 
>>>> There are probably plenty of software issues to iron out. Also, as I
>>>> understand it, mostly the car has to drive on a strip that heops with
the
>>>> sensors, but I could be wrong. Blind Bargains has a podcast of the
drive,
>>>> complete with the crowd there, race announcers, and all, and a press
>>>> conference. I think it is blindbargains.com though it could be .org.
>>>> 
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