[nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention

cheryl echevarria cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 2 13:04:36 UTC 2011


good morning all:

As like Albert, I used to Drive, do I want to drive again in the future, I don't know it would be a lot easier, do I really want to no way Jose.  To many idiots on the road out there. 

Do I think we will be allowed to drive is another story.  I let my guide dog do all the driving or my husband depending walking or in the car, Maxx doesn't have thumbs to hold the steering wheel

In any case, again this would be a case of the Insurance Companies insuring us.  I realize this is off topic to this list.

But for years, Diabetics couldn't drive or the insurance companies would put a very high premium on diabetic drivers and we had to fight hard with the ADA to work that out. That is American Diabetes Association not the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Can you imagine the premiums on us driving. 


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Buddy Brannan<mailto:buddy at brannan.name> 
  To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention


  Hi,

  Oh, I'm completely with you on your analogy with the Wright brothers. Will we see blind people driving in our lifetime? I sure hope so. As I've said elsewhere (as have others, I'm sure), I believe the attitude and legislative barriers are going to be much harder to manage than the technological ones will. I think the technology will be ready in our lifetimes, but I'm not so sure that sighted drivers will be as willing to share the roads with us, and that's going to be the harder battle to win. (I suspect that by the time we *do* win that one, everyone will have automated vehicles and it won't matter.) Having said that though, the technological offshoots of this, and the developments that come of it in goodness knows how many areas, will be tremendous. 
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  On Feb 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Rovig, Lorraine wrote:

  > Dear Buddy,
  > It is also worth noting, in a practical sense, that from the first flight by the Wright Brothers at Kittyhawk to the first step on the moon took 50 years.  I think this trip at Daytona Racetrack is the equivelent of a Kittyhawk for a blind driver.  I wouldn't expect a Wright Brother to fly that airplane of theirs anywhere but on a closed beach until they solved a few more problems.  On the other hand, fifty years isn't so long for such a huge leap of mankind as stepping on the moon.  I expect blind drivers will be on the open roads in my lifetime.  Here is a link to more information about the Daytona trip by Mark Riccobono as found on the NFB Website:
  > 
  > Blind Man Drives Car Independently
  > The NFB announced today that for the first time a blind individual has driven a street vehicle in public without the assistance of a sighted person.  Mark Anthony Riccobono, a blind executive who directs technology, research, and education programs for the organization, was behind the wheel of a Ford Escape hybrid equipped with nonvisual technology and successfully navigated 1.5 miles of the road course section of the famed track at the Daytona International Speedway.  For more information on this historic moment, please read the digital news release with audio and video or the official press release. http://www.digitalnewsrelease.com/?q=nfb_daytona<http://www.digitalnewsrelease.com/?q=nfb_daytona> and
  > http://www.nfb.org/nfb/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=760<http://www.nfb.org/nfb/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=760> 
  > 
  > Lorraine Rovig
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  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
  > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:24 PM
  > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
  > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
  > 
  > No, there's no strip in the road. Speed strips" are vibraing things that are in a cushion under the driver's legs and up his back. These give information about whether he can speed up or slow down. The files on blindbargains.com are fantastic. BTW, I doubt that any blind people will drive the car on the open road. Putting aside the whole issue of not having driver's licenses and not being insured, I really don't think that the technology is quite ready for real world use. Probably won't be for some time yet. And count on legal hurdles and red tape beyond that before we can actually have a car that we can drive, and never mind the cost of having such a car modded. Think a van with a wheelchair lift is expensive? I'd bet this will be more. 
  > --
  > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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  > 
  > 
  > 
  > On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:23 PM, cheryl echevarria wrote:
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  >> neither did I.
  >> 
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  >> From: Albert J Rizzi<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>> 
  >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>> 
  >> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:18 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
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  >> 
  >> I did not hear anything  about needing a strip on the road  or anything like
  >> that to tell you the truth. 
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  >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
  >> Of Cindy Ray
  >> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:13 PM
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  >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
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  >> There are probably plenty of software issues to iron out. Also, as I
  >> understand it, mostly the car has to drive on a strip that heops with the
  >> sensors, but I could be wrong. Blind Bargains has a podcast of the drive,
  >> complete with the crowd there, race announcers, and all, and a press
  >> conference. I think it is blindbargains.com though it could be .org.
  >> 
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