[nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention

William ODonnell william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 2 22:02:58 UTC 2011


Yes Yes!  You are both correct in your thinking.  

--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:

> From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:40 AM
> Cindy,
> 
> You are right, we are all very close to being able to
> drive, but your point
> of the can'ts is not lost on me. we cannot use many sites
> out there because
> no one is holding companies and entities to the law. I say
> this as a man who
> oh so misses driving, but what good is driving going to do
> for us if when we
> get to work, or the bank or anywhere and we are still not
> able to access the
> virtual world with our assistive technologies. I am all for
> the driving
> thing, but when will there be a movement toward enforcing
> and ensuring the
> virtual public accommodations which would allow for an
> independent lifestyle
> full of fiscal independence, shopping experiences, and work
> opportunities?
> 
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt
> the one who is
> doing it."
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:56 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at Convention
> 
> You know what else, and this is a little off topic. We are
> inches away from
> driving cars, well that may be an exaggeration. But anyway,
> we still an't
> use the tools at the Weight Watchers web site. LOL
> 
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> 
> > The irony of this didn't escape me either, Cindy. 
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Feb 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
> > 
> >> Boy, I'm staying on *my* side of the street after
> reading this. LOL. You
> know, that car was a "quiet car." 
> >> 
> >> Cindy
> >> 
> >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Tamara Smith-Kinney
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Fine!  Rain on my parade with boring
> reality.  /grin/
> >>> 
> >>> I have to confess, I enjoy my silly little
> unrealistic image of whizzing
> >>> down the road (with a shiny red convertible
> model, naturally!) with my
> >>> poodle in her doggles riding shotgun while we
> boogie to music on the
> radio.
> >>> 
> >>> You know how I was talking earlier about
> adults who don't grow up?  I
> hope I
> >>> did not mistakenly imply that I am not one of
> them.  /lol/
> >>> 
> >>> It will be interesting to see how the
> technology comes along to support
> the
> >>> car itself, though.  Seems to me, just at
> a glance, that there would be
> >>> benefits to more than just us blind people who
> want to drive.  There
> could
> >>> be benefits in terms of lessening of traffic
> congestion (yeah, I dream),
> >>> improved traffic safety, improved pedestrian
> safety...  Which would
> improve
> >>> life for this blind person who sometimes just
> wants to walk a mile up to
> the
> >>> store for fun but has to consider the safety
> factors seven ways from
> Sunday,
> >>> consult the time of day, weather,
> horosocope...  Then wonder if it's
> worth
> >>> being lectured by walking beside a killer road
> (roads don't kill people;
> >>> idiot drivers kill people; often, on this
> road), etc.  We will not talk
> >>> about trying to cross the road.
> >>> 
> >>> So maybe the car blind people can drive would
> also be a car idiots can
> drive
> >>> safely?  Or if the car tells them there's
> a pedestrian crossing the
> street,
> >>> will they still drive right over it and ignore
> the thump?  /evil grin/
> >>> 
> >>> I did hear on the news just last week about an
> up and coming technology
> that
> >>> will allow drivers to join a caravan
> electronically and leave the
> driving to
> >>> the lead vehicle while you read a good book,
> the reporter pointed out
> >>> seriously.  Then, of course, the anchors
> had fun by listing all the
> things
> >>> drivers really do in their cars while their
> driving:  text, read the
> funny
> >>> pages, do the crossword, put on mascara, drink
> coffee from one hand and
> eat
> >>> a donut from the other.... They didn't include
> changing the baby's
> diaper on
> >>> the way to daycare, but I have seen that
> done.  
> >>> 
> >>> Hm...  So I wonder if the cars of the
> Blind Driver challenge would help
> at
> >>> all with the idiot driver challenge?  Now
> that I've thought about it, I
> may
> >>> never the cross the street again,
> though.  I've given myself a case of
> the
> >>> wild willies for sure!
> >>> 
> >>> Tami Smith-Kinney
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf
> >>> Of Buddy Brannan
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:24 PM
> >>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at
> Convention
> >>> 
> >>> No, there's no strip in the road. Speed
> strips" are vibraing things that
> are
> >>> in a cushion under the driver's legs and up
> his back. These give
> information
> >>> about whether he can speed up or slow down.
> The files on
> blindbargains.com
> >>> are fantastic. BTW, I doubt that any blind
> people will drive the car on
> the
> >>> open road. Putting aside the whole issue of
> not having driver's licenses
> and
> >>> not being insured, I really don't think that
> the technology is quite
> ready
> >>> for real world use. Probably won't be for some
> time yet. And count on
> legal
> >>> hurdles and red tape beyond that before we can
> actually have a car that
> we
> >>> can drive, and never mind the cost of having
> such a car modded. Think a
> van
> >>> with a wheelchair lift is expensive? I'd bet
> this will be more. 
> >>> --
> >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:23 PM, cheryl echevarria
> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> neither did I.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The biggest compliment you can pay me is
> to recommend my services! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cheryl Echevarria 
> >>>> http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> >>>> 1-866-580-5574 or 631-456-5394
> >>>> 
> >>>
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> >>>> 
> >>>> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor
> with Montrose Travel
> >>> CST-1018299-10
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> with Absolute Cruise and Travel
> >>> Inc.
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>> From: Albert J Rizzi<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>
> 
> >>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National
> Association of Guide Dog
> >>> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:18 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at
> Convention
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I did not hear anything  about
> needing a strip on the road  or anything
> >>> like
> >>>> that to tell you the truth. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> >>>> Founder
> >>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> >>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> >>>> New York, New York  10004
> >>>> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
> >>>> PH: 917-553-0347
> >>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
> >>>> "The person who says it cannot be done,
> shouldn't interrupt the one who
> >>> is
> >>>> doing it."
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
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> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> >>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf
> >>>> Of Cindy Ray
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:13 PM
> >>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind-Drivable Car at
> Convention
> >>>> 
> >>>> There are probably plenty of software
> issues to iron out. Also, as I
> >>>> understand it, mostly the car has to drive
> on a strip that heops with
> the
> >>>> sensors, but I could be wrong. Blind
> Bargains has a podcast of the
> drive,
> >>>> complete with the crowd there, race
> announcers, and all, and a press
> >>>> conference. I think it is
> blindbargains.com though it could be .org.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>
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