[nagdu] a new guide dog program

Tue Feb 15 05:50:42 UTC 2011

Oh, well!  I'd better sign up quick before it's too late.  With savings like
that, I can afford it, no problem!

Are we allowed to take the hides of tame cattle for use in tanning our own
leather and making our own harnesses?  Or do we have to take up buffalo
hunting to really show our independence?  Just asking out of curiosity here.

Where does Pawpower Creations fit in???  Does the contract say I have to
surrender my harnesses in order to demonstrate my independence in hunting
down a wild buffalo?  How can I hunt down a buffalo if I don't have a
harness for my guide dog?  Do I have to tame a wild mustang now, too?  Can
you use a cane to chase the mustang in order to rope it and ride it?  Can
you use a cane to guide the mustang while you're riding it across the
prairie in pursuit of a herd of buffalo?

Has anyone tried this?  Did they cover this in the O&M liessons you needed
to qualify for a guide dog in the first place?

Oh, this is all just too much!  How can I, a simple blind woman, expect to
do all of this unless someone comes to help me and teaches me what to do so
that I can be truly independent?

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:32 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a new guide dog program

You mean like $74,999? Surely she has a heart!!!

On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:

> Julie.  How about a Valentinesday discount?  Lol!
> 
> On 2/14/11, Jenine Stanley <jeninems at wowway.com> wrote:
>> Oh Man, as a school representative, I am definitely worried about this
new
>> concept in guide dog training. <grin>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm also cleaning up my keyboard from having snorted Diet Coke all over
it
>> while reading this thread. Thanks guys for making such a fun Monday!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> 
>> jeninems at wowway.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
>> Of Steven Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:19 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a new guide dog program
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Julie, from what I understand, and please correct me if I am wrong as I
may
>> be reading into this, I will also be using my exceptional skills as a
blind
>> person, and fabricating my own harness and leash and appropriate gear.  I
>> will take that beast of a cow down bare-handed and tan the hide to make
the
>> leather strapping to assemble the harness and leash and smelt the metals
to
>> make the hardware to fasten all of this together.  And, I will even offer
>> this product to individuals enrolling into the C.R.A.P school at a mere
$1K
>> including shipping and handling.   From what I have interpreted this,
>> C.R.A.P simply stands for The School of cantankerous Rights And
Privileges.
>> Am I close, or do I need to enroll and really understand what the true
>> founding principles are behind this?
>> 
>> I should note that I am quite concerned that this school will put the
others
>> out of business thus eliminating our choice of schools, but my plan-B is
to
>> train my own wolf right from the wild and tame the beast to comply with
my
>> personal philosophy and mission...yep, that's what I am gonna do cuz I
want
>> choice and aint' no one gonna tell me any different.
>> Wanna buy a homemade harness?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
>> Of Bryan Brown
>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:19 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a new guide dog program
>> 
>> Awesome! Are you going to offer low rate credit terms?
>> 
>>    Bryan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:15 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] a new guide dog program
>> 
>> 
>>> Heya all!
>>> 
>>> I've decided to start my very own, brand spankin' new guide dog program!
>>> Of course it will be totally state of the art.  The very latest in
>>> offering blind people all the rights and privileges they so want.
>>> 
>>> All training will happen in your home environment.  We will drop off the
>>> dog to you on Monday morning with a booklet describing the use and care
of
>> 
>>> the dog.  since you are very skilled in blindness alternatives, this
>>> shouldn't be a problem.  this is for your convenience.  should you have
>>> questions please call the number in the booklet and leave a message.
>>> Someone will call you back when we feel like it.
>>> 
>>> The trainer will not disturb your normal routine during the home
training
>>> process.   You will be free to take the dog wherever you like as soon as
>>> you like, immediately after signing all the release of liability forms.
>>> If you or the dog experience a mental health crisis please seek the
>>> services of a professional.
>>> 
>>> None of the dogs will be given health testing or hip X-rays.  You, being
a
>> 
>>> competent blind person, will be able to administer any complicated
medical
>> 
>>> interventions the dog may need.  Please see Appendix A in the booklet
for
>>> troubleshooting tips.
>>> 
>>> In line with our forward philosophy on blindness, we firmly believe that
>>> all blind people, regardless of their background, experience, available
>>> time or inclination can be competent dog trainers.  We therefore will
>>> provide only the barest minimum of training.  Should you experience
>>> difficulty, please see Appendix B of the booklet for suggestions.
>>> 
>>> We do not want to be viewed as a charity for the blind because this
would
>>> be demeaning to blind people.  We therefore charge $75,000 for each dog.
>>> We are sorry that refunds or guarantees are not available.  The purchase
>>> price must be paid in full before delivery of the dog.
>>> 
>>> In keeping with our hands off approach to the training experience, your
>>> privacy and independence, we will not be offering any follow up
services.
>>> After dropping off the dog to your home, you will never again hear from
>>> any of our staff.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The C.R.A.P. Guide Dog School
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> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
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