[nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs

[Margo and Arrow]

It is a religious issue and not just something at random.

However, supposedly, people who use service dogs are kind of exempt--well, 
the dogs are since they don't seem to think of the dogs as being as unclean 
or something.  However, many Muslim business owners are under the impression 
that in this country they can still deny us entrance.

I think it's a matter of reaching out to educate in a broader sense.

margo and Arrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs


> No, it is a religious issue.
>
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
>> Is it just me, or does the washing unclean objects/body parts/etc. seven 
>> times sound a little obsessive compulsive?
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Lisa Irving wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> It can be exasperating when some one perceives their religious 
>>> preferences supersede the law.
>>>
>>> I've discussed this matter; guide dogs riding in cabs driven by Muslim 
>>> cab drivers. A Muslim friend of mine explained to me their hand washing 
>>> rituals and why they frequently engage in this ritual. I get it. She 
>>> also told me that the drivers who are insistant  that they won't 
>>> transport a dog of any type, tends to be devout about his beliefs. 
>>> Nevertheless, she agrees with me that such beliefs should not over ride 
>>> laws. Together, we came up with a viable solution. I haven't been in a 
>>> position where I have tried this.
>>>
>>> I'm all right carrying handy wipes and offering them to the devout 
>>> Muslim. It's a gamble. The devout Muslim faith isn't going to disappear 
>>> anytime soon, nor are my rights as a person with a disability. So, 
>>> finding common ground and the middle plane seems to make logical 
>>> sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Weiner" 
>>> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:16 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] And that reminds me of the cab driver issue
>>>
>>>
>>>> And on the subject of cab drivers, it is patently ridiculous that 
>>>> someone's
>>>> supposed religious concerns should even be an issue for us. I'm 
>>>> referring to
>>>> the Muslim cab drivers you mentioned.
>>>> It just shows that our rights as blind people mean much less or nothing 
>>>> at
>>>> all when compared to some idiot cab driver.
>>>>
>>>> Dan W.
>>>>
>>>>
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