[nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs

Doug Parisian eggmann at mts.net
Sat Feb 19 00:16:01 UTC 2011


Both in the US and Canada, we have laws guaranteeing specific rights to our 
citizens and the beliefs of other cultures do not trump these rights.  I 
have no plans to carry handwipes, or any other kind of wipes to folks who do 
not accept our laws, that is their problem, not mine.  With many cell 
phones, one can take pictures of such offenders and use them for all kinds 
of subsequent actions.

Doug: Suck it up buttercup!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs


> Is it just me, or does the washing unclean objects/body parts/etc. seven 
> times sound a little obsessive compulsive?
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Lisa Irving wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> It can be exasperating when some one perceives their religious 
>> preferences supersede the law.
>>
>> I've discussed this matter; guide dogs riding in cabs driven by Muslim 
>> cab drivers. A Muslim friend of mine explained to me their hand washing 
>> rituals and why they frequently engage in this ritual. I get it. She also 
>> told me that the drivers who are insistant  that they won't transport a 
>> dog of any type, tends to be devout about his beliefs. Nevertheless, she 
>> agrees with me that such beliefs should not over ride laws. Together, we 
>> came up with a viable solution. I haven't been in a position where I have 
>> tried this.
>>
>> I'm all right carrying handy wipes and offering them to the devout 
>> Muslim. It's a gamble. The devout Muslim faith isn't going to disappear 
>> anytime soon, nor are my rights as a person with a disability. So, 
>> finding common ground and the middle plane seems to make logical 
>> sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Weiner" 
>> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:16 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] And that reminds me of the cab driver issue
>>
>>
>>> And on the subject of cab drivers, it is patently ridiculous that 
>>> someone's
>>> supposed religious concerns should even be an issue for us. I'm 
>>> referring to
>>> the Muslim cab drivers you mentioned.
>>> It just shows that our rights as blind people mean much less or nothing 
>>> at
>>> all when compared to some idiot cab driver.
>>>
>>> Dan W.
>>>
>>>
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