[nagdu] moderator notes

Fri Jul 1 11:57:38 UTC 2011

Well then perhaps the handlers should be banned rather then a whole
community who for the most part are more on top of their responsibilities.
It goes back to not letting one bad apple spoil the   whole bunch. Not
cleaning up after ones dog is unconscionable. /

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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Julie J.
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:04 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] moderator notes

Dan,

Fleas were just the beginning. There were also issues of barking and not 
cleaning up accidents.

Julie
On 6/30/2011 7:28 PM, Dan Weiner wrote:
> So let's see...some dogs had fleas and therefore the rule is not to leave
> your dogs unattended?
> Explain that one.
>
> Dan W.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J.
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:42 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] moderator notes
>
> Hey all!
>
> Wow!   There are a ton of messages.  I haven't read through all of them
> yet.  I will.  In the meantime I wanted to interject a few things.
>
> first and foremost, some of the messages have had a tone that is bordering
> on rude.  I am a very, very, strong advocate of letting people speak their
> mind.  However the writer *must* always be polite and keep
> the message          on thoughts, ideas, facts or plans.  It is
> absolutely not okay to flame an individual or even an organization.  Now
> before people go all crazy on me, please disagree to your hearts content.
> Please tell us all the things you don't like about the NFB.
> I'm all ears, but where I draw the line is when constructive
> critisism turns into just plain whining or worse.
>
> So explain why it is that you don't agree with the policy.  Tell us an
> alternative that could work just as well or better to solve the problem of
> barking and other problems with guide dogs left unattended in hotel rooms.
> Tell us what you have done to ensure that your dog isn't barking even when
> you are not there to know for sure.
>
> I also think it's important for people to know the history behind this
rule.
> It hasn't always been a policy of NAGDU and the NFB.  Many years ago at an
> NFB convention in a very nice hotel that had given us very nice room
rates,
> guide dogs came that had fleas and were generally a huge problem.  This
> hotel would not host our conventions ever again after their horrible
> experience.  It turns out that hotels, just like all other sectors of
> commerce, talk amongst each other.  It got around that guide dogs at
> convention were a problem.  Other hotels were very reluctant if not
outright
> opposed to hosting our conventions.  You will
> notice that NFB conventions get very, very good room rates.   A hotel
> cannot deny a guest with a guide dog access, but when you are talking
about
> an entire convention you are talking about a very different thing.  The
> excellent room rates were in jeopardy.  So NAGDU and the NFB came up with
> the plan to self regulate guide dog problems in order that the hotel would
> continue to give us the low room rates.  This is why you are asked to not
> leave your dog unattended, to clean up accidents or to
> get a NFB affiliated person to assist instead of hotel      staff.
> These policies were not dreamt up to single out guide dog users or to make
> our lives more difficult.  They were drafted after problems occurred that
> were affecting the entire organization.  So if there had been no fleas in
> the first place or no dogs barking like crazy in hotel rooms, we would not
> have these policies and would not be having this discussion right now.
>
> Thanks for making this list great!
> Julie
> NAGDU list moderator
>
>
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