[nagdu] Issue with guide dog in training and puppy raiserathotelin GA

Tami Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Fri Jun 17 18:47:23 UTC 2011 

/lol/ I'll take that excuse! It would also explain the dogs and the
county-wide bark fest that's been going on.  it's my duty to keep the
lousy mutts quiet, but it's hard to do when I want to run around barking
my head off right along with them. Teehee.

On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 17:10 -0500, Steven Johnson wrote:
> Actually, it is probably the full moon that just occurred over the past
> couple of days...I feel the same sassy way!  
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tami Kinney
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issue with guide dog in training and puppy
> raiserathotelin GA
> 
> Sic 'em! Good boy! /evil grin/ This is why we need collective activism.
> Getting legal recourse is just too expensive and too draining for an
> individual, but when we take on these law breakers together...
> 
> Boycotts are an alternative, but not as effective as a good attorney and
> lawsuit.  Also, I think publication helps and if there's a legal case
> involved, then that gets the point across that this is not only not
> okay, but downright illegal.
> 
> Huh.  I seem to have woken up militant today. /grin/
> 
> On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 22:55 -0400, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
> > Lyn,
> >     I would like a shot at the franchise CEO! I'll bet I could convince
> him 
> > to follow the law. Then, rather than a boycott, I would prefer good ol' 
> > criminal prosecution and DOJ intervention!
> > 
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issue with guide dog in training and puppy 
> > raiserathotelin GA
> > 
> > 
> > > Yeah, then the next step could be a boycott of these Scottish Inns until
> 
> > > they agree to follow the law in access for service dogs!
> > >
> > > I wouldn't even want to stay at a place that responds by rudely hanging
> up 
> > > on you!
> > >
> > > Lyn and Landon
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issue with guide dog in training and puppy 
> > > raiserathotel in GA
> > >
> > >
> > >>I started by speaking to Beverly Hunter at the GA office this morning,
> the 
> > >>person I am talking with is a puppy raiser with GDF in GA, she stayed at
> 
> > >>Scottish Inn in Metter, GA.  Dog was allowed in, but when she got bill
> the 
> > >>hotel charged her $10.00 for the dog, she said that the dog, who by the 
> > >>way had its vest on, said this is a guide dog in training, would you 
> > >>charge a person who is blind for there guide dog and they said yes.
> > >>
> > >> I call this morning prior to calling Beverly at the GA office and I 
> > >> started out by saying I am a travel agent here in NY, would there be a 
> > >> corporate office to contact, since I had learned there are a few
> scottish 
> > >> inns on the eastern part of the US, he was foreign as well, not sure,
> he 
> > >> said just owner, no corporate, I said may I speak to the owner, because
> 
> > >> being a travel professional I was trying to get foot in the door to
> find 
> > >> out who was in charge.
> > >>
> > >> He said he was the boss, and then I had started talking about this
> person 
> > >> who stayed at the hotel, she gave me her name and reservation number
> and 
> > >> I said that it is against ADA to charge for a Service Animal at a
> hotel, 
> > >> and he hung up on me.
> > >>
> > >> So I am in the middle of finding out if they are a franchise or not by 
> > >> calling some of the other locations and finding out myself, and then if
> 
> > >> that is the case calling the Corporate office and informing them of
> this 
> > >> act.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl Echevarria
> > >> http://www.echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/>
> > >> 631-456-5394
> > >>
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> > >>
> > >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel 
> > >> CST-1018299-10
> > >>
> > >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, 
> > >> Inc.
> > >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>  From: Marion Gwizdala<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>
> > >>  To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> > >> Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 9:36 AM
> > >>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issue with guide dog in training and puppy raiser
> 
> > >> athotel in GA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Cheryl,
> > >>      In the state of Georgia, trainers of service dogs have the same 
> > >> rights
> > >>  of access as the disabled person. The law does not require the trainer
> 
> > >> be a
> > >>  professional trainer, only that the individual can "be identified as
> an
> > >>  agent" of the training program. Here is the relevant text of Georgia 
> > >> code
> > >>  30-4-2 - 4
> > >>
> > >>  .
> > >>
> > >>  (2) Every person engaged in the training of a guide dog or service dog
> 
> > >> for
> > >>  the purpose of accompanying a person as provided in paragraph (1) of 
> > >> this
> > >>  subsection
> > >>
> > >>  shall have the same right to be accompanied by such dog being trained
> as 
> > >> the
> > >>  totally or partially blind person, deaf person, or physically disabled
> > >>  person
> > >>
> > >>  has under paragraph (1) of this subsection, so long as such trainer is
> > >>  identified as an agent or employee of a school for seeing eye,
> hearing,
> > >>  service,
> > >>
> > >>  or guide dogs.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  If your friend would like to seek reimbursement of the fee that was 
> > >> charged,
> > >>  I would be happy to assist in this. Please have this person give me a 
> > >> call.
> > >>
> > >>  Fraternally yours,
> > >>  Marion Gwizdala, President
> > >>  National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> > >>  National Federation of the Blind
> > >>  813-626-2789
> > >>  President at NAGDU.ORG<mailto:President at NAGDU.ORG>
> > >>  HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG<http://www.nagdu.org/>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>  From: "cheryl echevarria" 
> > >> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > >>  To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >>  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:26 PM
> > >>  Subject: [nagdu] Issue with guide dog in training and puppy raiser at 
> > >> hotel
> > >>  in GA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  >I am keep name off, this had happed to a puppy raiser at my guide dog
> > >>  >school, she was staying in a hotel with her guide dog in training,
> and 
> > >> was
> > >>  >charged for the dog staying in her room.
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Puppies do not have the same access rights as the blind person with
> a
> > >>  > guide dog, she also said if she was blind would she have been
> charged 
> > >> the
> > >>  > money also, the man said yes, whether he fully understood the 
> > >> question, I
> > >>  > am sure in the state of GA that would have been frowned upon if that
> 
> > >> was
> > >>  > the case.
> > >>  >
> > >>  > But puppies are not under the same laws as us, if I understand 
> > >> correctly,
> > >>  > and up to the public facility to allow the guide dog in training in 
> > >> the
> > >>  > facility which wasn't the problem it was the fact that the woman was
> > >>  > charge for the dog in her room.
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Cheryl Echevarria
> > >>  > 
> > >>
> http://www.echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/<http://www.
> echevarriatravel.com%3chttp//www.echevarriatravel.com/>>
> > >>  > 631-456-5394
> > >>  > 
> > >>
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com<m
> ailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com%3Cmailto:reservations at echevarriatrav
> el.com>>
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
> > >>  > CST-1018299-10
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise &
> Travel,
> > >>  > Inc.
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