[nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy

B Avila Guerrero guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
Thu Jun 30 19:15:31 UTC 2011


"Family" seems to be the NFB's key word. Haven't seen it yet.
Bertha 

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy

This conversation happens every year.  So I am going to drop it because, I
am getting ready for convention, and those of you who are right your are
right.

In any family there are disagreements.  


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  From: PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)<mailto:REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> 
  To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
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  Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:00 PM
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  I left my husband home alone recently. He drank beer and ate junk. What
should I do? What if there'd been a fire? Or worse, what if he'd run out of
beer?  Clearly, he can't be left unsupervised.

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  Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:57 PM
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  Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy

  I use my cane, but again, I treat my dog like I would my child, I realize
not the same to most on this list, but I would not leave my child alone in a
hotel room, even if she is the best in the world, I would leave her with a
babysitter or something.

  If I go out without Maxx, I leave him with Nelson, or with my daughter if
we go out on a date, or we both are going away, depending on how long,
either my cousin, but no I don't leave Maxx alone.

  Sorry to disappoint you.

  That is the way I was raised, that is being responsible for my things, or
people or husband or child, and that includes my dog. He is part of my life
and I don't want anything to happen to him, because then it would be my
fault.

  Now if you can all grow up and stop picking on me. That would be great.
Thanks.

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    Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:49 PM
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    the policies are, I am sure, for ill trained  pets. Like i said, and you
can
    affirm your status as a travel professional, but as a traveler, and not
a
    travel professional, I feel good about my decisions concerning my
choices,
    in accommodations and whether I  choose to leave my dog at home or at a
    hotel should I feel it appropriate. A fire can happen at home just as
    easily, are you insinuating that you never, ever leave the house without
    your dog?

    Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
    Founder
    My Blind Spot, Inc.
    90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
    New York, New York  10004
 
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    Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:40 PM
    To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy

    You no what no comment, I am in the industry and you decide to leave you
dog
    alone that is your business, but not with the convention.  It is a
    reasonable request.


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      To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 
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      Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:33 PM
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      Cheryl,

      That has never been told to me in any of the hotels or inns I have
stayed
    at
      from mew york city to California. So, I am not sure if this is a
policy
    for
      all hotels as you seem to infer, or is it just a policy when there are
a
      group of guide dog users at a convention. Either way, I am happy to
say no
      one has ever told me what to do with my guide when to leave him or not
and
    I
      am certainly not going to be staying anywhere that tries that stuff.

      Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
      Founder
      My Blind Spot, Inc.
      90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
      New York, New York  10004
 
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      Of cheryl echevarria
      Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:27 PM
      To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
      Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy

      fyi, in any situation whether blind or sighted, hotels that allow dogs
do
      not allow them unattended, it is a fair statement that NAGDU follows
this
      policy.

      And if you are not going to convention then you have nothing to worry
    about.


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        Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:23 PM
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        I would have to agree here. It also harkens one to think that the
very
        organization  which professes our need to be independent and self
        determining, that perhaps those of us with a guide have no apparent
      control
        over our dogs. I for one leave my dog home from time to time and use
my
        cane. I never come home to anything other then a possible chewed up
    piece
      of
        random paper which I lef out. I also have traveled extensively and
have
      left
        my guide in the hotel room, only to find what you would ask? a
sleeping
      dog,
        who behaved perfectly while I was out. ridiculous.

        Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
        Founder
        My Blind Spot, Inc.
        90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
        New York, New York  10004

 
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      [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
        Of Tracy Carcione
        Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:15 PM
        To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
        Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy

        I object to this policy.  I object to the notion that I need special
    rules
        and supervision because I choose to use a guide dog.  It makes me
feel
        unwelcome at convention.  Of course, I'd be perfectly welcome, if I
        acknowledge that I need others to tell me how to handle my dog, or,
    better
        yet, leave the smelly troublmaking beast at home.
        So I will be spending my time, money, and energy in places where I
will
        actually be treated like an intelligent, responsible adult.  Too bad
        that's not the NFB convention.
        Funny thing is, I bet  Marion would object too, if it wasn't NFB
        leadership decreeing it.
        Tracy

        > Dear All,
        >     In advance of the national convention, I want to remind
everyone
    of
        > the NFB policy concerning guide dogs during convention. It is the
        > policy of the National Federation of the Blind, endorsed by the
        > national Association of Guide Dog Users, that guide dog shall not
be
        > left unattended in guest rooms at any time. Violation of this
policy
        > may result in the member's restriction from attending the next two
(2)
        > conventions of the National Federation of the Blind. We appreciate
        > your cooperation and adherence to this policy.
        >     As the person responsible for responding to concerns about
guide
      dogs
        > during our conventions, I want to share that I have had the
necessity
        > to respond to at least two complaints during each convention for
the
        > past four years. In every case, I was told by the guide dog user
that
        > their dog does not bark when left alone, in spite of the evidence
to
        > the contrary. It is not my desire to prohibit our members from
        > attending convention; however, it is also not my desire to allow a
        > guide dog user to disrupt others at convention by another's
        > irresponsible behavior. I encourage guide dog users to comply with
        > this policy in an effort to maintain order and peace during
        > convention.
        >
        > Fraternally yours,
        > Marion Gwizdala, President
        > National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
        > National Federation of the Blind
        > 813-626-2789
        >
 
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