[nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
cheryl echevarria
cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 30 19:18:26 UTC 2011
Well again, I did apologize, e-mails do have that affect, and I have been through some issues with others on this list me thinking them being rude or condescending but that wasn't the case, for those who know me, know I am far from that.
But again, we don't have to like everyone it is a free world.
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From: B Avila Guerrero<mailto:guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
Cheryl, I don't know you, and probably at this rate, never will.
However, your tone and condescending attitude is quite frankly what I have
found prevalent in the NFB.
As I said, time to start re-thinking my membership.
Bertha
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
I use my cane, but again, I treat my dog like I would my child, I realize
not the same to most on this list, but I would not leave my child alone in a
hotel room, even if she is the best in the world, I would leave her with a
babysitter or something.
If I go out without Maxx, I leave him with Nelson, or with my daughter if we
go out on a date, or we both are going away, depending on how long, either
my cousin, but no I don't leave Maxx alone.
Sorry to disappoint you.
That is the way I was raised, that is being responsible for my things, or
people or husband or child, and that includes my dog. He is part of my life
and I don't want anything to happen to him, because then it would be my
fault.
Now if you can all grow up and stop picking on me. That would be great.
Thanks.
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
the policies are, I am sure, for ill trained pets. Like i said, and you
can
affirm your status as a travel professional, but as a traveler, and not a
travel professional, I feel good about my decisions concerning my choices,
in accommodations and whether I choose to leave my dog at home or at a
hotel should I feel it appropriate. A fire can happen at home just as
easily, are you insinuating that you never, ever leave the house without
your dog?
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
You no what no comment, I am in the industry and you decide to leave you
dog
alone that is your business, but not with the convention. It is a
reasonable request.
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
Cheryl,
That has never been told to me in any of the hotels or inns I have
stayed
at
from mew york city to California. So, I am not sure if this is a policy
for
all hotels as you seem to infer, or is it just a policy when there are a
group of guide dog users at a convention. Either way, I am happy to say
no
one has ever told me what to do with my guide when to leave him or not
and
I
am certainly not going to be staying anywhere that tries that stuff.
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:27 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
fyi, in any situation whether blind or sighted, hotels that allow dogs
do
not allow them unattended, it is a fair statement that NAGDU follows
this
policy.
And if you are not going to convention then you have nothing to worry
about.
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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:23 PM
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I would have to agree here. It also harkens one to think that the very
organization which professes our need to be independent and self
determining, that perhaps those of us with a guide have no apparent
control
over our dogs. I for one leave my dog home from time to time and use
my
cane. I never come home to anything other then a possible chewed up
piece
of
random paper which I lef out. I also have traveled extensively and
have
left
my guide in the hotel room, only to find what you would ask? a
sleeping
dog,
who behaved perfectly while I was out. ridiculous.
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
Founder
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I object to this policy. I object to the notion that I need special
rules
and supervision because I choose to use a guide dog. It makes me feel
unwelcome at convention. Of course, I'd be perfectly welcome, if I
acknowledge that I need others to tell me how to handle my dog, or,
better
yet, leave the smelly troublmaking beast at home.
So I will be spending my time, money, and energy in places where I
will
actually be treated like an intelligent, responsible adult. Too bad
that's not the NFB convention.
Funny thing is, I bet Marion would object too, if it wasn't NFB
leadership decreeing it.
Tracy
> Dear All,
> In advance of the national convention, I want to remind everyone
of
> the NFB policy concerning guide dogs during convention. It is the
> policy of the National Federation of the Blind, endorsed by the
> national Association of Guide Dog Users, that guide dog shall not be
> left unattended in guest rooms at any time. Violation of this policy
> may result in the member's restriction from attending the next two
(2)
> conventions of the National Federation of the Blind. We appreciate
> your cooperation and adherence to this policy.
> As the person responsible for responding to concerns about guide
dogs
> during our conventions, I want to share that I have had the
necessity
> to respond to at least two complaints during each convention for the
> past four years. In every case, I was told by the guide dog user
that
> their dog does not bark when left alone, in spite of the evidence to
> the contrary. It is not my desire to prohibit our members from
> attending convention; however, it is also not my desire to allow a
> guide dog user to disrupt others at convention by another's
> irresponsible behavior. I encourage guide dog users to comply with
> this policy in an effort to maintain order and peace during
> convention.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
> 813-626-2789
>
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