[nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
Thu Jun 30 19:37:02 UTC 2011
My hubby is putting the front page of the Washington Post on our wall, the one announcing Obama winning.
I'm a Republican.
Can we say "mixed marriage"?
We also have an Obama sticker on our car. I need to take care of that.
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
Hey I am with one political party but it doesn't mean I can't agree with another party. Really I am a jew and hubby isn't talking about jumping party lines. LOL
Have to laugh, cant cry about this stuff.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Merritt<mailto:wcmerritt at gmail.com>
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
And, we don't have to like or agree with everything that an
organization stands for. Personally, in my own humble opinion, anyone
that agrees with everything from an organization, is blindly following
them, :)
Wayne
On 6/30/11, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Well again, I did apologize, e-mails do have that affect, and I have been
> through some issues with others on this list me thinking them being rude or
> condescending but that wasn't the case, for those who know me, know I am far
> from that.
>
> But again, we don't have to like everyone it is a free world.
>
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
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> From: B Avila Guerrero<mailto:guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net<mailto:guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net>>
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
>
> Cheryl, I don't know you, and probably at this rate, never will.
> However, your tone and condescending attitude is quite frankly what I have
> found prevalent in the NFB.
> As I said, time to start re-thinking my membership.
> Bertha
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
> I use my cane, but again, I treat my dog like I would my child, I realize
> not the same to most on this list, but I would not leave my child alone in
> a
> hotel room, even if she is the best in the world, I would leave her with a
> babysitter or something.
>
> If I go out without Maxx, I leave him with Nelson, or with my daughter if
> we
> go out on a date, or we both are going away, depending on how long, either
> my cousin, but no I don't leave Maxx alone.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you.
>
> That is the way I was raised, that is being responsible for my things, or
> people or husband or child, and that includes my dog. He is part of my
> life
> and I don't want anything to happen to him, because then it would be my
> fault.
>
> Now if you can all grow up and stop picking on me. That would be great.
> Thanks.
>
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
>
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> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>>
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
>
> the policies are, I am sure, for ill trained pets. Like i said, and you
> can
> affirm your status as a travel professional, but as a traveler, and not
> a
> travel professional, I feel good about my decisions concerning my
> choices,
> in accommodations and whether I choose to leave my dog at home or at a
> hotel should I feel it appropriate. A fire can happen at home just as
> easily, are you insinuating that you never, ever leave the house without
> your dog?
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
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> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:40 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
> You no what no comment, I am in the industry and you decide to leave you
> dog
> alone that is your business, but not with the convention. It is a
> reasonable request.
>
>
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
>
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> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>
> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>>>
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
>
> Cheryl,
>
> That has never been told to me in any of the hotels or inns I have
> stayed
> at
> from mew york city to California. So, I am not sure if this is a
> policy
> for
> all hotels as you seem to infer, or is it just a policy when there are
> a
> group of guide dog users at a convention. Either way, I am happy to
> say
> no
> one has ever told me what to do with my guide when to leave him or not
> and
> I
> am certainly not going to be staying anywhere that tries that stuff.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
>
>
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> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
> who
> is
> doing it."
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> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
> fyi, in any situation whether blind or sighted, hotels that allow dogs
> do
> not allow them unattended, it is a fair statement that NAGDU follows
> this
> policy.
>
> And if you are not going to convention then you have nothing to worry
> about.
>
>
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
>
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> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>
>
> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.o<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.o<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.o%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.o>>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
>
> I would have to agree here. It also harkens one to think that the
> very
> organization which professes our need to be independent and self
> determining, that perhaps those of us with a guide have no apparent
> control
> over our dogs. I for one leave my dog home from time to time and use
> my
> cane. I never come home to anything other then a possible chewed up
> piece
> of
> random paper which I lef out. I also have traveled extensively and
> have
> left
> my guide in the hotel room, only to find what you would ask? a
> sleeping
> dog,
> who behaved perfectly while I was out. ridiculous.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
>
>
>
> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/<http://www.myblindspot.org%3
> chttp//www.myblindspot.org/>>
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
> who
> is
> doing it."
>
>
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> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:15 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NFB Convention Guide Dog Policy
>
> I object to this policy. I object to the notion that I need special
> rules
> and supervision because I choose to use a guide dog. It makes me
> feel
> unwelcome at convention. Of course, I'd be perfectly welcome, if I
> acknowledge that I need others to tell me how to handle my dog, or,
> better
> yet, leave the smelly troublmaking beast at home.
> So I will be spending my time, money, and energy in places where I
> will
> actually be treated like an intelligent, responsible adult. Too bad
> that's not the NFB convention.
> Funny thing is, I bet Marion would object too, if it wasn't NFB
> leadership decreeing it.
> Tracy
>
> > Dear All,
> > In advance of the national convention, I want to remind
> everyone
> of
> > the NFB policy concerning guide dogs during convention. It is the
> > policy of the National Federation of the Blind, endorsed by the
> > national Association of Guide Dog Users, that guide dog shall not
> be
> > left unattended in guest rooms at any time. Violation of this
> policy
> > may result in the member's restriction from attending the next two
> (2)
> > conventions of the National Federation of the Blind. We appreciate
> > your cooperation and adherence to this policy.
> > As the person responsible for responding to concerns about
> guide
> dogs
> > during our conventions, I want to share that I have had the
> necessity
> > to respond to at least two complaints during each convention for
> the
> > past four years. In every case, I was told by the guide dog user
> that
> > their dog does not bark when left alone, in spite of the evidence
> to
> > the contrary. It is not my desire to prohibit our members from
> > attending convention; however, it is also not my desire to allow a
> > guide dog user to disrupt others at convention by another's
> > irresponsible behavior. I encourage guide dog users to comply with
> > this policy in an effort to maintain order and peace during
> > convention.
> >
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala, President
> > National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 813-626-2789
> >
>
>
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