[nagdu] Bloat

Tamara Smith-Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Tue Mar 8 18:37:13 UTC 2011 

Yeah, Mitzi's a pretty slow eater and drinker, too.  Whew!  Unless I'm in a
hurry for her to eat and have to wait.  /lol/  Come to think of it, she
wants to roll around and play after she eats, too.  And when she does play,
she plays hard!  I like to get her warmed up with some long running, but
that's not always possible because of the way our park here is situated.  If
it's not crowded, I'll sneak around the back end to throw or kick the ball
for her while she runs in front of me and lets me know where the path is.
/smile/  But now that spring is in the air, she just goes nuts with the
running and bouncing and leaping and spinning...  So I do keep an eye on
her, and check her several times when she's all collapsed on the floor in
the evening after we get home.  So far so good!

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of GARY STEEVES
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:01 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bloat


Hi Tami:

I think this is one of those things we, as poodle owners have to be aware
of, but are lucky in some ways that our dogs eat rather slowly. Well mine
does. He tends to eat some, have a drink of water and eat some  more. I
worry about him a bit since after he eats he always wants to come over and
play which involves rolling on the floor eventually. There's nothing I could
do, in my mind, to stop this behaviour and he seems so happy who would want
to. So learning the signs certainly would be more helpful. I Also think that
bloat is just like any other medical issue any of us might face. There are
the risk factors but some dogs just might have other issues that make them
more likely to have problems than the fellow dog from the same breed or even
litter. However, the more we know about things the more we can be aware and
keep our dogs safe.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:50 am
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bloat
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Brenda,
> 
> I'm going to ask my vet about that next time we go, though that 
> won't be for
> a couple of months or so.
> 
> In bloat, the problem is that the intestines get twisted 
> somehow, so blood
> supply is cut off and the intestine necrotizes and poisons the 
> dog.  I don't
> know if there is a way to get things back in order before it is 
> too late
> without surgery.
> 
> Some preventative measures I've read and try to follow are to 
> always make
> sure the dog eats and drinks in a natural posture with the head 
> down to eat
> food at ground level.  I don't know if it's true that not 
> doing so can
> result in bloat, but I'm careful with Mitzi that way because of 
> her long
> poodly neck and narrow body.  Just in case!
> 
> 
> Tami Smith-Kinney
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf
> Of Brenda
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:09 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bloat
> 
> Is there anything that can be done to prevent bloat from 
> requiring surgery?
> Brenda
> 
> On 3/7/2011 3:15 PM, Tamara Smith-Kinney wrote:
> > Yeeks!  $5K????  Yes, that is horrible!  I'd 
> better check with my vet to
> see
> > what that is here.  For a guide dog, that still works out 
> as the better
> > bargain, but good grief!
> >
> > I feel so bad for your friend and her loss.
> >
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of Tracy Carcione
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 11:06 AM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bloat
> >
> > Hi Tami.
> > Thanks for the further info. I'll take Ben's pulse 
> tonight.  (People might
> > think it was weird, if I did it in my office.)
> > May bloat never happen to any of our dogs.
> > My friend said that surgery might have saved the dog, but it 
> was $5000 and
> > the owner just couldn't afford it.  Isn't that horrible, 
> to have to choose
> > between a huge bill and the life of your dog?! It's nice to 
> know, but,
> > should I ever be there, I could call on my school for help, so 
> long as my
> > dog was still working.
> >
> > Tracy
> >
> >> Tracy,
> >>
> >> I'm so sorry about your friend's dog!  Thank you for the 
> reminder about
> >> bloat.
> >>
> >> It is good to know the signs of bloat, since it leaves no 
> time to waste
> in
> >> getting to a vet.  Poodles are prone to bloat, so I live 
> in fear of it
> and
> >> check Mitzi over regularly, just in case.  If she seems 
> to have a tummy
> >> ache
> >> or even to be feeling a bit off, I check her abdomen and 
> femoral pulse
> >> first, just to be sure!
> >>
> >> So the signs I know to look for are a hardened, distended 
> abdomen and
> lack
> >> of femoral pulse on either side.  You can feel the 
> femoral pulse by
> >> standing
> >> behind your dog and putting your hands around the thighs so 
> that your
> >> fingertips can feel up into the groin where the pulse 
> is.  No pulse means
> >> blood supply is cut off and you're nearly out of time!  
> It never hurts to
> >> know what your dog's normal pulse feels like, so you can tell 
> if it's
> very
> >> weak or thready, especially if there's unusual tension in the 
> abdomen.>>
> >> So far, so good with my girl, and I plan to keep it that 
> way!  But if the
> >> signs do show up ever, I will know it's time to head to the vet!
> >>
> >> Tami Smith-Kinney
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Tracy Carcione
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:54 AM
> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [nagdu] Bloat
> >>
> >> My neighbor's lab mix died last night from bloat.  My 
> friend was
> >> dog-sitting, and called me to see what I thought about the 
> dog pacing and
> >> crying.  I guessed bloat, and thought the dog should go 
> to the vet
> >> immediately, but the owner wanted to wait and see if it got better.
> >> Off-hours vet visits are very expensive, but sometimes you 
> just can't
> >> wait.  I'm sorry I was right, though.
> >>
> >> I thought I'd share, so we can all have a better idea of what 
> to look out
> >> for.
> >> Tracy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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