[nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals ordinance
Lyn Gwizdak
linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Fri Mar 11 20:32:27 UTC 2011
I hear you on that, Lisa. You are a wonderful friend to have and you really
do embody what Christ had in mind in following him. People like us can be
happy with diversity even when we don't understand it at times, but so many
people can't seem to bring themselves to do this. I think they are very
unhappy people who bring other people down into the muck with them.
Marion, thanks for looking into this - like I said, I had a problem in
believing that a City Council would try to pass a law like this that clearly
violates ADA and common decency!
Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals ordinance
> Marion, sometimes I feel like I live in a paper bag. I just can't fathom
> starting hate filled behavior toward a sect of individuals; be it Muslim,
> blind or gay. If that is what is going on I don't know even where to begin
> with my response. Life's hard enough without people deliberately
> complicating it.
>
> Lisa and Bernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals
> ordinance
>
>
>> Lisa,
>> I am still trying to confirm the introduction of the measure that was
>> mentioned on this list a week or so ago with the NFB of Minnesota. I am
>> beginning to believe it was an urban legend designed to create anti
>> Islamic outrage. It troubles my soul to think that there are those with
>> such hatred in their hearts as to perpetrate such a thing! And they most
>> likely think they are doing God's will! So sad!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals
>> ordinance
>>
>>
>>> Marion, I'm uninformed about the anti constitutional conduct taking
>>> place in MN. This brings me to overall California Disability Law vrs the
>>> ADA. In Cali., and perhaps other states, which ever disability law is
>>> the strongest over rides the other law.
>>>
>>> I don't know stanza and verse of either law. What I am aware of from a
>>> hand full of personal encounters, via the Southern California U. S.
>>> District Federal Courts, is that Cali. Disability Law is more detailed
>>> and has greater protections about businesses providing equal access to
>>> their "goods and services"
>>>
>>> What's the likelihood MN has, very negatively, designed legislation that
>>> supersedes federal ADA legislation. I am stunned and not totally
>>> surprised that religion and allergies has been tossed into the
>>> complicated mix of things. I hope the NFB gets behind this regressive
>>> legislation.
>>>
>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals
>>> ordinance
>>>
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>> Such a thing is less of a concern to me than what is rumored to be
>>>> happening in Minnesota. The Principle of Supremacy allows lower
>>>> jurisdictions to make laws that are less restrictive but Minnesota, if
>>>> the rumor is true and I am working to find out if it is, is trying to
>>>> make a law that is more restrictive by allowing public accommodations
>>>> to use religion, fear, and allergies as reasons to deny access. This is
>>>> a clear violation of the ADA and, thus, a violation of the U.S.
>>>> Constitution. Article V, Clause 2 states
>>>>
>>>> This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be
>>>> made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be
>>>> made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme
>>>> Law of the land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby,
>>>> any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
>>>> notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> Marion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals
>>>> ordinance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just don't know what to say. It's sad and sort of funny in a way
>>>>>that you'd only understand if your familiar with small town local
>>>>>politics. They don't seem to understand disability law or really much
>>>>>about disabilities at all. Once again it's only the green that matters
>>>>>in the end. Sad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 5:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals
>>>>> ordinance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hesperia Star (Hesperia, CA)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> March 3, 2011
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Council approves service animals ordinance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Councilman Blewett vows to repeal if ordinance leads to lawsuits
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> local businesses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beau Yarbrough <mailto:beau at hesperiastar.com> , Staff Writer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The American with Disabilities Act will become more restrictive in
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> definition of service animals this month, but the changes won't apply
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Hesperia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At their meeting Tuesday night, the Hesperia City Council voted to
>>>>>> allow any
>>>>>> sort of service animal to be used by the disabled in Hesperia public
>>>>>> buildings and businesses, so long as they're accompanied by a
>>>>>> doctor's note
>>>>>> certifying their status as service animals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On March 15, new federal guidelines will tighten the definition of
>>>>>> service
>>>>>> animals in the ADA to just dogs. The act was signed into law by
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> George H. W. Bush in July 1990 and never previously defined what
>>>>>> constituted
>>>>>> a service animal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The city ordinance was drafted in response to a request from local
>>>>>> resident
>>>>>> Danni Moore, who uses two rats riding on her shoulders to help
>>>>>> control her
>>>>>> seizures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "All I ask is that the city council allows me to continue to come to
>>>>>> pay my
>>>>>> bills [at city hall] and volunteer at the library," Moore told the
>>>>>> council
>>>>>> on Tuesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disabled residents "have a right to be a person, to go to a store, to
>>>>>> go to
>>>>>> a restaurant," argued resident Kim Jones. "There are some things that
>>>>>> [service] dogs can just not do."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But not everyone agreed with Jones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The needs of the many have to outweigh the needs of the few," said
>>>>>> Councilman Bill Holland. "It unnecessarily places Hesperia's
>>>>>> businesses,
>>>>>> which quite frankly pay our way, in harm's way."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If I end up in a lawsuit over this, I'll move my business out of the
>>>>>> city,
>>>>>> I'll be real honest with you," said Century 21 owner Don Jensen, the
>>>>>> brother
>>>>>> of planning commissioner Bill Jensen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ADA "hasn't affected Hesperia's businesses for the past 20, 50
>>>>>> years,"
>>>>>> said Councilman Thurston "Smitty" Smith, "And this doesn't change
>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I've never seen a service animal other than a dog in a restaurant
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> than one time in Mexico," said Mayor Pro Tem Russ Blewett. "We have
>>>>>> 18
>>>>>> percent of the people in this community unemployed, and we're talking
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> service animals."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ordinance passes 4-d, with Holland dissenting. Although he voted
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> favor of the measure, Blewett said he'd vote to repeal it if any
>>>>>> business is
>>>>>> sued under the city ordinance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next regular meeting of the Hesperia City Council will take place
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> March 15 at 6:30 p.m. at Hesperia City Hall, 9700 Seventh Avenue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> http://www.hesperiastar.com/news/service-3999-animals-council.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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