[nagdu] hotels

Lisa Irving lirving1234 at cox.net
Mon May 2 04:42:47 UTC 2011


Thanks for the encouragement. At this time, no criminal actions have taken 
place. If I could charge someone for being a doofass I'd have a clear cut 
case. LOL!

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels


> If you have to press charges do so.
> I had to do this with a neighbors dog who kept biting my dog.
> When I went to court they said to each other, I'm pleased her brother 
> didn't come with her.
> They dropped the case because I was standing up for myself.
> I stood my ground saying, I'm standing up for my dog who can't stand up 
> for herself.
> They even went as far as trying to see if I was doing animal cruelty.
> I was not.
> They didn't believe the story the ladies shared, saying if I gave another 
> call for animal control to come out to the building, they would take her 
> dog away put it down and fine her one thousand dollars.
> By then we were moving to a different part of town.
> What is sad here, is the other blind in the building started getting grief 
> when I left.
> I begged if we work in a group this problem would stop for all of us, no 
> they didn't want to do that.
> So when I left I shared they were on their own.
>
> Original message:
>> this stupid drama isn't media worthy. It's just stupid ignorent stuff 
>> that
>> most people look the other way.
>
>> Lisa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>> I hope you can get it worked ut. I also had the medea involved. Wishing 
>>> you
>>> the best.
>>> Dar
>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:16 AM, "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> D M Gina, I live in senior and disabled housing. Talk about drama 
>>>> queens!
>>>> Yeah, I've gotten nonsense from management and a couple of neighbors. I
>>>> brought Fair Housing into the mix a few months ago. One thing I've
>>>> requested in the mediation is to mandate the management folks to attend
>>>> Fair Housing training. This is one area I'm not backing down on. They
>>>> made my life Hell because they're uninformed and haven't been 
>>>> interested
>>>> in "enlightenment" from me or a local agency for the blind. I get you 
>>>> to
>>>> the extent I understand where you're coming from. Again, Go Girl!
>
>>>> Lisa
>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>> In the situations I explained the folks live in low income, and felt
>>>>> they had nothing else to do.
>>>>> So picking on the blind was the thing.
>>>>> Until they learned that the blind will not put up with grief.
>>>>> When I left, I had folks saying to me, they wished that I would come
>>>>> back, because they didn't feel they could do what I did.
>>>>> I never went back and hope I don't have to.
>>>>> I understand why one might get depressed living in low income, but 
>>>>> this
>>>>> doesn't mean you have to bother others at their expense.
>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hmm, you take things to a level I hadn't considered. Go girl! If my
>>>>>> life
>>>>>> isn't in danger or there's no serious threat to my dog's safety or to
>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>> I'll stick to the sharp nudging of the invader's hand.  I guess, do
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> works.
>
>>>>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>> Oh I don't ever worry about my actions, I just do them, and that 
>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> years ago.
>>>>>>> Trust me I would do it again if I had to.
>>>>>>> You truly have to get me to go that far.
>>>>>>> I had a stalker in Denver who I slapped with the leash when he 
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get my fanny pack.
>>>>>>> He also left me alone.
>>>>>>> I still have the paper work that says smile,
>>>>>>> You need to be one ball park away from this lady.
>>>>>>> So it didn't matter to me if he called the police.
>>>>>>> I got this paper work from the court system and I will always keep 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> encase I get to Denver and need to use it.
>>>>>>> Oh yes this lady me of course, had a guy in a wheel chair who wanted
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> chase the dog.
>>>>>>> So I solved that problem lifting the guy out of his chair and 
>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> on the walk, leaving him there, to figure out how he was going to 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>> Trust me he didn't bother us any more.
>>>>>>> Even our manager was shocked I would do this, and when he saw what 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> guy
>>>>>>> was doing, he said, that was polite for me to show him, that we are
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> disabled, and need to respect what we do to get around,
>>>>>>> For the blind it is using a dog or cane, and we respect the folks 
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> in wheel chairs.
>>>>>>> /The office watched me to make sure that I didn't cause trouble for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> folks in wheel chairs, and they soon learned we just lived with them
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> wanted to go on our own way.
>
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Careful with the leash. Sincerely, it can be construed as assault. 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> Sharp
>>>>>>>> nudging of the invader's hand will produce similar results too.
>
>>>>>>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:23 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>>>> Those are the ones you pray for, before you spank them giggle.
>>>>>>>>> Just teasing on the spanking.
>>>>>>>>> But I have smacked persons with the leash before when they had no
>>>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>>>> Trust me, they never wanted to touch the dog again.
>>>>>>>>> That leash stings.
>
>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe, but sometimes I wonder at the density of some people.  One
>>>>>>>>>> lady,
>>>>>>>>>> whom
>>>>>>>>>> I have never met and still have no idea who she is, came up to me
>>>>>>>>>> immediately after a two hour session on respecting difference. 
>>>>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> say hello or anything, just wants to know my dog's name in a 
>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>> demanding tone.  then she proceeds to pet before actually asking.
>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> told her that she couldn't pet him, she walked off in a huff.
>
>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then they don't know you at all for there actions, I wonder if
>>>>>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> them again would help,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dar
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:34 PM, "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not co-workers as in we are both employed by the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> am involved in some of the same projects as some of them.  In
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> sense,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do work with them.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dmgina" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these the folks you work with. I hope not. Dar
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:35 AM, "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I got back yesterday and have been catching up with all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will say with absolute certainty that letting the hotel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advance of my arrival that I'm blind and have a dog is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unacceptable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be addressing the issue.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole two days was pretty much  a test of my patience in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with overhelpful people.  Interestingly I had absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with hotel staff, restaurant employees or in any of the shops 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into in the evening.  All my frustration was with the people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the conference.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monty was absolutely amazing!  We hadn't stayed in a hotel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few months.  Last time he was a bit anxious about all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noises and unfamiliar doings.  He wouldn't play with his toys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forever to relieve.  this time he was very content with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settled easily under the table during the long meetings.  He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relieved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superfast, which I appreciate immensely.  He played with toys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotel room. His guiding was spot on!
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone for you thoughts on my situation.  It has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a bit in figuring out what exactly I want to say when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the lady that made my reservations.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owens, Parker"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course. However, the university cannot rely on this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have liability.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Lisa Irving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:57 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Parker,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Resident Assistants are hired to assist everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doormies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with disabilities. Roomies can help one another as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighbors. This is called a natural support. It replaces the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out or to exclude some one, particularly some one with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owens, Parker"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:03 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you see where it gets tricky in a university situation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those kids start before age 18.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:53 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "better customer service" is never a "perk" when it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discriminatory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability to accept an accommodation, aid, service,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which such individual chooses not to accept." (42 USC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12201(d))
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, requiring a person to accept an accommodation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perceives a "need" for such an accommodation when the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered discriminatory under the ADA.
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owens, Parker"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:58 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's something you may not have thought of. What if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the building or some other emergency? They may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire and police departments to check specific rooms first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem. But imagine someone else that needs assistance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refused the 'accessible' room. You may not like it, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons the hotel may want to make the employees aware of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Better customer service is a perk, even though it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unequal.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I work (a university), we have a box of information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emergency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workers at each dorm, that tells the names of students and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rooms for anyone that might require assistance. It may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of privacy, but we are required to do this by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> university
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safety office.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope I am not offending anyone by mentioning the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Julie J
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] hotels
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just had to write a quick vent before I head out for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I work for the county, but this training is being paid for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a regional prevention agency.  They are paying or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reimbursing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expenses, which is how I am able to go.  Throughout the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other events sponsored by this agency.  They all know me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monty.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the rough spot.  They set up the hotel as a direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agency, which means that I didn't make my own reservation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is going.  They told the hotel that I'm blind, have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I'm very independent and they don't need to worry 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AARGH!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just AARGH!
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've been told that the hotel has no problem with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real worried about that.  I have also been put on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> floor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care one way or another about.  But I am oh so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relieved to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hotel is okay with me coming! *sarcastic smile*
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing to be done about it really.  I did try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lady who made the reservation for me that all of that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary and that I'm pretty well  accustomed to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and my rights.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope the next few days are not one long saga like this.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> --Dar
>>>>>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>>>>>> every sinner has a future
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