[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 35
holly mcknight
hollyandpolly at hotmail.com
Mon May 30 23:08:36 UTC 2011
Hello all, I know I have been quiet over the last few days, but I saw this message about jogging with your guide. Before I got my first dog in 1993, I read The Leading Lady, by Tom Sullivan and Betty White. Tom is a serious runner and when he told the staff at Leader Dogs that, they trained his dog to run with him while guiding. He seemed pretty happy with it and she worked for many years. I don't if it's something I would try, but even if not the book The Leading Lady is still a good read. Hope all are having a good Memorial Day. Holly and Pollyann
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> 1. Re: Jogging with my dog (Julie J)
> 2. Re: Jogging with my dog (Cindy Ray)
> 3. Re: Jogging with my dog (Hope Paulos)
> 4. boredom on routine routes (Julie J)
> 5. Re: Biology classes and guide dogs (Marsha Drenth)
> 6. Re: Biology classes and guide dogs (Marsha Drenth)
> 7. Re: Biology classes and guide dogs (Marsha Drenth)
> 8. Re: Biology classes and guide dogs (Marsha Drenth)
> 9. Re: boredom on routine routes (Cindy Ray)
> 10. Re: boredom on routine routes (d m gina)
> 11. Re: Jogging with my dog (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> 12. Re: boredom on routine routes (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> 13. Re: Biology classes and guide dogs (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> 14. Re: boredom on routine routes (John Doering)
> 15. Re: boredom on routine routes (John Doering)
> 16. Re: boredom on routine routes (Julie J)
> 17. Re: boredom on routine routes (Cindy Ray)
> 18. Re: boredom on routine routes (cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com)
> 19. Re: boredom on routine routes (John Doering)
> 20. Re: boredom on routine routes (Julie J)
> 21. Re: boredom on routine routes (Cindy Ray)
> 22. Re: boredom on routine routes (Julie J)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 07:09:03 -0500
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
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> Cindy,
>
> I've never heard that. I could see how all out running/sprinting for long
> distances wouldn't be advisable. I can also see how running on pavement for
> long distances wouldn't be the best for a dog because they don't have the
> advantage of shock absorbing shoes.
>
> The times I have gone jogging with my dogs, and they have been a while ago,
> the dog wasn't running. I'm not sure if it is because I am a slow jogger or
> my dogs are really fast walkers or what. It's been probably a year since I
> tried it with Monty, but he just walks faster. His gait doesn't change into
> a gallop or run. He's very tall though, so maybe that has something to do
> with it.
>
> My take on jogging with a guide is that if you work into it slowly, just as
> you would in any sort of physical training, it should be fine. Also if you
> are going really long distances, jogging on something other than pavement
> would probably be best. As for the guiding part, if you are jogging on a
> smooth, clear pathway meant for jogging, the dog should be able to guide you
> safely.
>
> JMHO
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
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>
> >I am sure some will disagree with this, but I've heard it said that dogs
> >are not meant to do distance running, that you can damage them trying to
> >get them to do it because they want to please their master. I am jogging
> >with a human to help me with it because it makes more sense. Our strides
> >would be more conversant with one another.
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> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 07:15:40 -0500
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
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> I don't know where I read that, and maybe it isn't true, but I did read it somewhere. I don't think I could get my dog to guide when I was jogging. When he is in a new place, he might for a while, but a familiar one, forget it. He's bored.
> Cindy
>
> On May 28, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Julie J wrote:
>
> > Cindy,
> >
> > I've never heard that. I could see how all out running/sprinting for long distances wouldn't be advisable. I can also see how running on pavement for long distances wouldn't be the best for a dog because they don't have the advantage of shock absorbing shoes.
> >
> > The times I have gone jogging with my dogs, and they have been a while ago, the dog wasn't running. I'm not sure if it is because I am a slow jogger or my dogs are really fast walkers or what. It's been probably a year since I tried it with Monty, but he just walks faster. His gait doesn't change into a gallop or run. He's very tall though, so maybe that has something to do with it.
> >
> > My take on jogging with a guide is that if you work into it slowly, just as you would in any sort of physical training, it should be fine. Also if you are going really long distances, jogging on something other than pavement would probably be best. As for the guiding part, if you are jogging on a smooth, clear pathway meant for jogging, the dog should be able to guide you safely.
> >
> > JMHO
> > Julie
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
> >
> >
> >> I am sure some will disagree with this, but I've heard it said that dogs are not meant to do distance running, that you can damage them trying to get them to do it because they want to please their master. I am jogging with a human to help me with it because it makes more sense. Our strides would be more conversant with one another.
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> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:40:49 -0400
> From: Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
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> It's not good to have the dog run more than 6 miles. It damages their pads. I looked into having my dog run a half marathon with me. Jogging shiort distances is ok though
> Hope and Beignet
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> On May 28, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't know where I read that, and maybe it isn't true, but I did read it somewhere. I don't think I could get my dog to guide when I was jogging. When he is in a new place, he might for a while, but a familiar one, forget it. He's bored.
> > Cindy
> >
> > On May 28, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Julie J wrote:
> >
> >> Cindy,
> >>
> >> I've never heard that. I could see how all out running/sprinting for long distances wouldn't be advisable. I can also see how running on pavement for long distances wouldn't be the best for a dog because they don't have the advantage of shock absorbing shoes.
> >>
> >> The times I have gone jogging with my dogs, and they have been a while ago, the dog wasn't running. I'm not sure if it is because I am a slow jogger or my dogs are really fast walkers or what. It's been probably a year since I tried it with Monty, but he just walks faster. His gait doesn't change into a gallop or run. He's very tall though, so maybe that has something to do with it.
> >>
> >> My take on jogging with a guide is that if you work into it slowly, just as you would in any sort of physical training, it should be fine. Also if you are going really long distances, jogging on something other than pavement would probably be best. As for the guiding part, if you are jogging on a smooth, clear pathway meant for jogging, the dog should be able to guide you safely.
> >>
> >> JMHO
> >> Julie
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
> >>
> >>
> >>> I am sure some will disagree with this, but I've heard it said that dogs are not meant to do distance running, that you can damage them trying to get them to do it because they want to please their master. I am jogging with a human to help me with it because it makes more sense. Our strides would be more conversant with one another.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:12:45 -0500
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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> Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> Hello all!
>
> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical pedestrian, to slow.
>
> There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going, it's back to dragging his feet.
>
> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
>
> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going because he doesn't slow.
>
> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
>
> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work Monty.
>
> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide more information.
>
> thanks!
> Julie
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:12:21 -0400
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
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> Robert,
>
> No I do not think that the college will raise any issue of mine or my guide
> being present in the bio lab. I work closely with the disability
> coordinator, she knows the issues and the potential problems that might
> arise. But like I said it was more of a wondering sort of question, nothing
> on the part of the college.
>
> Thank you,
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Robert Hooper
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:19 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> Hello:
>
> If you suspect that the college might raise an issue with your guide being
> present in the classroom, then I would contact your academic advisor and, if
> applicable, your disability services counselor, along with any ADA
> coordinator the school might have to ensure the legality of everything.
> After this, all of you can speak with the head of the Biology department, or
> someone with equivalent power, depending on the university you attend. I
> would start low on the chain first--it seems as though you are preparing
> well in advance for such an issue, as you are taking the class in the fall.
> Before you take it, talk to the above-mentioned people and then approach the
> head of the department. I'm sure there are exceptions to the agreement that
> the person writing did not anticipate. If the head of the department doesn't
> play ball, then get your college's ADA coordinator involved, assuming the
> college has one.
> Sincerely,
> Robert Hooper
> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
> The Ohio State University
> 553 Morrill Tower
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> Columbus, Ohio 43210
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:11 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> I took biology a long time ago. It didn't seem particularly unsafe to me.
> The only thing I'd worry about, if I took it again, would be the
> possibility of my dog picking up some piece of the animal we were
> dissecting. Formaldehyde would not be a good thing to eat.
> I was in high school; I remember guys throwing fish eyes around, for
> instance.
> But I got a lot out of the class. My teacher didn't have a connipption
> about my working on the dissections with my classmates. Or working with all
> those fruit flies.
> Tracy
>
> > Hi Listers,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am posting to both NABS and NAGDU because the topics are relevant to
> > both lists. Sorry if your getting this twice.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the fall, I will be taking Biology. The college requires that I
> > sign an agreement that I will be safe at all times. On the agreement
> > is that I will not wear any open toe shoes and there will be no pets
> > in the class room.
> > Now. Now. Before any one jumps on me, I know a guide is not a pet. But
> > my guide dog will be going to campus with me and going to this class.
> >
> >
> >
> > How, what can I do to make Emma safer during this class? How or what
> > can I do or say to make the college feel safer about my guide being in
> > the classroom? What have other students done about this? I know some
> > of you out there who are dog users have taken biology. I would like
> > some tips and tricks here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > marsha
> >
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> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:13:58 -0400
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
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> Yes, I will absolutely have an assistant for my lab. The class is broken up
> in classroom time and lab time.
>
> Thank you,
> Marsha
>
>
>
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> Of wmodnl wmodnl
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> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
>
> See if the DS office would provide an assistant. I had taken a Chemistry
> course where an assistant was hired to watch my guide. I then had a
> personal escort to take me to the class. The assistant was required to stay
> and help in the Chemistry lab since the equipment was old. The flame tests
> were dangerous and many students ruined clothing when the chemical reactions
> did not work out. The lab consisted of over 50 students crowded in small
> cubicles. Students had to share the workspace within each cubicle.
>
>
> > From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:51:51 -0400
> > CC: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
> >
> > Hi Listers,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am posting to both NABS and NAGDU because the topics are relevant to
> both
> > lists. Sorry if your getting this twice.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the fall, I will be taking Biology. The college requires that I sign an
> > agreement that I will be safe at all times. On the agreement is that I
> will
> > not wear any open toe shoes and there will be no pets in the class room.
> > Now. Now. Before any one jumps on me, I know a guide is not a pet. But my
> > guide dog will be going to campus with me and going to this class.
> >
> >
> >
> > How, what can I do to make Emma safer during this class? How or what can I
> > do or say to make the college feel safer about my guide being in the
> > classroom? What have other students done about this? I know some of you
> out
> > there who are dog users have taken biology. I would like some tips and
> > tricks here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > marsha
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:15:05 -0400
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
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> Cindy,
>
> Very good point, and I will probably do this.
>
> Thank you,
> marsha
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 8:58 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> I haven't read all messages concerning this, but now would be a good time,
> if I were concerned, to go visit with the instructor about the issue at
> hand. Personally, I would just go as planned and see what the lay of the
> land is first.
> Cindy
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:18:03 -0400
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
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> As I previously stated in another email. The agreement I mention in my
> original email, is NOT an agreement I have to sign alone. All students going
> into such a class must sign the agreement. It is not a blind thing, they are
> not singling me out. All students must sign it, no matter what.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sheila Leigland
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:03 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> Marion that is correct. I don't personally like signing things that others
> that aren't blind don't also have to sign.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 09:32:15 -0500
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> I don't think that is so uncommon. I have had all my dogs do that. You have to find a variety of routes to take to keep up the excitement, and I'm not clear on how well this works because there are routes I would rather not take and which I don't feel as safe taking. Besides, I simply don't have enough time to do that. Fisher is abominally slow downtown when we are taking our route to work unless he sees a dog. I can't say which I prefer, but my life is less endangered if he doesn't see the dog. I hope someone has some good ideas because I could use help with this as well.
>
> Cindy
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:54:05 -0400
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> What about treats, would that work?
> When he goes faster again treat him, just a thought.
>
> Original message:
> > Hello all!
>
> > Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route
> > to work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much
> > about his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has
> > changed and he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His
> > pace has gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to
> > typical pedestrian, to slow.
>
> > There is road construction which means that my route to work has
> > changed a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the
> > new way he's at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out
> > where we are going, it's back to dragging his feet.
>
> > My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> > work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to
> > work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for
> > leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his
> > brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
>
> > The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> > teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a
> > week and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations.
> > Monty has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are
> > close to where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going
> > because he doesn't slow.
>
> > I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where
> > he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
>
> > I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is
> > unfortunate because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing
> > going to work for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a
> > reason to not work Monty.
>
> > I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> > similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide
> > more information.
>
> > thanks!
> > Julie
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:07:23 -0700
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
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> Hey, Ally.
>
> I do some jogging with Mitzi, and it's pretty fun. I try to pick places
> with nice soft ground since taking a header onto cement or pavement is not
> my idea of a good time. /smile/ Since our road of certain doom has gotten
> even busier and more dangerous, I haven't been able to get to the park
> regularly, so I am considering whether I want to try it over here on
> pavement... I'm feeling kind of chicken about that, though.
>
> When she was a pup, I would practice jogging a bit on the nice turf at the
> park while she was playing. She thought that was pretty cool and would run
> ahead of me excitedly. /smile/ So I could laugh and praise her for that.
> I could also use her for orientation by listening to her bell. So as she
> grew up, we got better at it, and she will zig zag in front of me, keeping
> me on course by sound. If she has her squeaky ball, she will give a squeak
> as she crosses my line of travel to keep me oriented or to get me straight
> again if I start to veer. She takes great delight in doing this and it
> works well for me. /smile/ Also, she can get her wild energy out by
> running like a maniac while I do my little old scaredy lady jog and laugh at
> her antics. So this is my preferred method of jogging with her when I have
> a place to do that.
>
> I then taught her to leash guide while I jogged, using a Halti to keep a
> rein on the wildness. At first she thought this cramped her style horribly,
> but now she has great fun pulling ahead of me and guiding me around stuff,
> so I usually do that from the parking lot to the dog park area when I get a
> ride across the street to the park. It's very exhilarating running behind
> her with my dog park cane waving in the air, since there are obstacles for
> her to lead me around. She's very good at it, though.
>
> So when I was ready to start jogging with her in harness, all I had to do
> was pick up my feet in places where her natural go was motivating her
> anyway, and we learned to jog together that way. I use my sport harness for
> that, since it has a lot of freedom of movement while giving good
> communication. I haven't tried it yet in the newer Laveau style harness,
> since that's my Sunday go ta meetin' harness and I don't want to get it all
> grubby at the park.
>
> Anyway, I don't know if any of that is helpful for you to teach your dog to
> jog with you when he's in harness. I like using exposure to new activities
> with Mitzi by doing it with my cane when she's along and developing a
> command set for it and using the clicker to capture the behaviors I want
> from her when I'm doing whatever it is. It seems to work well with her.
>
> Good luck. Eight miles would take a long time at a walk. Also, it would do
> me in. You're a fitter woman than I, that's for sure! /grin/
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Ally Matt
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 4:01 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Jogging with my dog
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am wondering if anyone jogs/runs with their guide dog? I walk a ton with
> my dog, in fact, we walked 8 miles recently. It took a long time to walk
> that far, so I have been thinking about trying to start jogging, but my dog
> seems to have one pace. He walks very fast, but I have a hard time
> encouraging him to jog with me. He seems to be hesitant to do that in
> harness. Does anyone have experience with this and have any tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ally and Allstar
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:32:06 -0700
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> Hm... My first thought is to give him some sort of reward when you get to
> work that makes it fun for him to go there. With Mitzi, who slows down when
> we're going home, I used soccer in the yard or shadow ball soccer in the
> house to motivate her. Not sure how that would work in the halls at the
> office. /grin/ Is it possible for you to give him little play or sniff
> breaks during the day? That might make it less boring for him, too.
>
> Or maybe just working on speeding him up with the clicker would do? I've
> had mixed results with that with Mitzi for the going-home foot dragging.
>
> Her latest thing is that she refuses to find the truck. We do too much
> riding in the truck here and there, then going into stores or banks or
> whatever, and that is not her style! She wants to get out and go! So do I,
> frankly. /smile/ I'm still tearing out my hair trying to figure out a way
> to get to places to just get out and go as a team. Coming up with left over
> cash for a bus pass so I can travel to safe areas to gallivant around with
> my poodle is just not happening for me. Sigh. Three years with no pay
> raise while prices go up has not been helpful. With a proposed move back to
> La Grande, I'm not looking for a job, but I am hoping a new computer will
> allow me to use my time productively at home so I can maybe generate some
> income? I sure hope so! /smile/
>
> Anyway, good luck. I'll be interested to see what you come up with. I love
> Mitzi's go, but when she decides she wants to drag her feet, that is just
> maddening. Goober poodle! /smile/
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:13 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
> Hello all!
>
> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to
> work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about his
> being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and he's
> slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has gradually
> decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical pedestrian, to
> slow.
>
> There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed a
> few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's at
> his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going, it's
> back to dragging his feet.
>
> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to work
> with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to work
> alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for leisure.
> When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his brisk pace. I
> think he thought we were going someplace fun.
>
> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I teach
> a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week and
> attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty has his
> regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to where I work,
> but he must have figured out where we are going because he doesn't slow.
>
> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where he
> generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
>
> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate
> because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work for
> the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work Monty.
>
> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a similar
> situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide more
> information.
>
> thanks!
> Julie
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:33:07 -0700
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
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> I'm glad the college is good to work with there. Sounds like you have it
> under control and that Emma will do fine.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marsha Drenth
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:12 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> Robert,
>
> No I do not think that the college will raise any issue of mine or my guide
> being present in the bio lab. I work closely with the disability
> coordinator, she knows the issues and the potential problems that might
> arise. But like I said it was more of a wondering sort of question, nothing
> on the part of the college.
>
> Thank you,
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Robert Hooper
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:19 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> Hello:
>
> If you suspect that the college might raise an issue with your guide being
> present in the classroom, then I would contact your academic advisor and, if
> applicable, your disability services counselor, along with any ADA
> coordinator the school might have to ensure the legality of everything.
> After this, all of you can speak with the head of the Biology department, or
> someone with equivalent power, depending on the university you attend. I
> would start low on the chain first--it seems as though you are preparing
> well in advance for such an issue, as you are taking the class in the fall.
> Before you take it, talk to the above-mentioned people and then approach the
> head of the department. I'm sure there are exceptions to the agreement that
> the person writing did not anticipate. If the head of the department doesn't
> play ball, then get your college's ADA coordinator involved, assuming the
> college has one.
> Sincerely,
> Robert Hooper
> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
> The Ohio State University
> 553 Morrill Tower
> 1900 Cannon Drive
> Columbus, Ohio 43210
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:11 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Biology classes and guide dogs
>
> I took biology a long time ago. It didn't seem particularly unsafe to me.
> The only thing I'd worry about, if I took it again, would be the
> possibility of my dog picking up some piece of the animal we were
> dissecting. Formaldehyde would not be a good thing to eat.
> I was in high school; I remember guys throwing fish eyes around, for
> instance.
> But I got a lot out of the class. My teacher didn't have a connipption
> about my working on the dissections with my classmates. Or working with all
> those fruit flies.
> Tracy
>
> > Hi Listers,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am posting to both NABS and NAGDU because the topics are relevant to
> > both lists. Sorry if your getting this twice.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the fall, I will be taking Biology. The college requires that I
> > sign an agreement that I will be safe at all times. On the agreement
> > is that I will not wear any open toe shoes and there will be no pets
> > in the class room.
> > Now. Now. Before any one jumps on me, I know a guide is not a pet. But
> > my guide dog will be going to campus with me and going to this class.
> >
> >
> >
> > How, what can I do to make Emma safer during this class? How or what
> > can I do or say to make the college feel safer about my guide being in
> > the classroom? What have other students done about this? I know some
> > of you out there who are dog users have taken biology. I would like
> > some tips and tricks here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > marsha
> >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:38:19 -0500
> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> Julie,
> I would suggest first making sure his slowing down is not due to something
> physical. Have your vet check him out.
>
> HTH,
> JD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:12 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
>
> > Hello all!
> >
> > Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to
> > work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about
> > his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and
> > he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has
> > gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical
> > pedestrian, to slow.
> >
> > There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed
> > a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's
> > at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going,
> > it's back to dragging his feet.
> >
> > My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> > work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to
> > work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for
> > leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his
> > brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >
> > The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> > teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week
> > and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty
> > has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to
> > where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going because he
> > doesn't slow.
> >
> > I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where he
> > generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
> >
> > I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate
> > because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work for
> > the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work
> > Monty.
> >
> > I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> > similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide more
> > information.
> >
> > thanks!
> > Julie
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:43:05 -0500
> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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>
> What is shadow ball soccer?
>
> Thanks,
> JD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
>
> > Hm... My first thought is to give him some sort of reward when you get to
> > work that makes it fun for him to go there. With Mitzi, who slows down
> > when
> > we're going home, I used soccer in the yard or shadow ball soccer in the
> > house to motivate her. Not sure how that would work in the halls at the
> > office. /grin/ Is it possible for you to give him little play or sniff
> > breaks during the day? That might make it less boring for him, too.
> >
> > Or maybe just working on speeding him up with the clicker would do? I've
> > had mixed results with that with Mitzi for the going-home foot dragging.
> >
> > Her latest thing is that she refuses to find the truck. We do too much
> > riding in the truck here and there, then going into stores or banks or
> > whatever, and that is not her style! She wants to get out and go! So do
> > I,
> > frankly. /smile/ I'm still tearing out my hair trying to figure out a
> > way
> > to get to places to just get out and go as a team. Coming up with left
> > over
> > cash for a bus pass so I can travel to safe areas to gallivant around with
> > my poodle is just not happening for me. Sigh. Three years with no pay
> > raise while prices go up has not been helpful. With a proposed move back
> > to
> > La Grande, I'm not looking for a job, but I am hoping a new computer will
> > allow me to use my time productively at home so I can maybe generate some
> > income? I sure hope so! /smile/
> >
> > Anyway, good luck. I'll be interested to see what you come up with. I
> > love
> > Mitzi's go, but when she decides she wants to drag her feet, that is just
> > maddening. Goober poodle! /smile/
> >
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of Julie J
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:13 AM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >
> > Hello all!
> >
> > Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to
> > work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about
> > his
> > being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and he's
> > slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has gradually
> > decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical pedestrian, to
> > slow.
> >
> > There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed
> > a
> > few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's at
> > his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going,
> > it's
> > back to dragging his feet.
> >
> > My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> > work
> > with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to work
> > alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for leisure.
> > When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his brisk pace.
> > I
> > think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >
> > The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> > teach
> > a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week and
> > attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty has
> > his
> > regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to where I
> > work,
> > but he must have figured out where we are going because he doesn't slow.
> >
> > I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where he
> > generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
> >
> > I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate
> > because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work for
> > the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work
> > Monty.
> >
> > I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> > similar
> > situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide more
> > information.
> >
> > thanks!
> > Julie
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:57:34 -0500
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> He's due for a vet visit anyway and I'll mention it. However he only does
> this on the way to work. I can take him on a 4 mile walk through the hike
> and bike trails and he's at his usual fast pace the whole way. I think if
> it were something physical it would be consistent everywhere we go.
>
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
>
> > Julie,
> > I would suggest first making sure his slowing down is not due to something
> > physical. Have your vet check him out.
> >
> > HTH,
> > JD
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:12 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >
> >
> >> Hello all!
> >>
> >> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to
> >> work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about
> >> his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and
> >> he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has
> >> gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical
> >> pedestrian, to slow.
> >>
> >> There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed
> >> a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's
> >> at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going,
> >> it's back to dragging his feet.
> >>
> >> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> >> work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to
> >> work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for
> >> leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his
> >> brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >>
> >> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> >> teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week
> >> and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty
> >> has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to
> >> where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going because he
> >> doesn't slow.
> >>
> >> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where
> >> he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate
> >> because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work
> >> for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work
> >> Monty.
> >>
> >> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> >> similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide
> >> more information.
> >>
> >> thanks!
> >> Julie
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nagdu mailing list
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>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:11:07 -0500
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> TSE tried that with me and with using clicker. Wayne was good for the treats; didn't change the behavior much, but then he was pretty much always slow except at the airport.
>
> Cindy
>
> On May 28, 2011, at 9:54 AM, d m gina wrote:
>
> > What about treats, would that work?
> > When he goes faster again treat him, just a thought.
> >
> > Original message:
> >> Hello all!
> >
> >> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical pedestrian, to slow.
> >
> >> There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going, it's back to dragging his feet.
> >
> >> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >
> >> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going because he doesn't slow.
> >
> >> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
> >
> >> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work Monty.
> >
> >> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide more information.
> >
> >> thanks!
> >> Julie
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:17:04 +0000
> From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> Well the he acts like the rest of us going to work I mean who really wants to work rofl.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> Sender: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:57:34
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Reply-To: "NAGDU Mailing List,
> the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
> He's due for a vet visit anyway and I'll mention it. However he only does
> this on the way to work. I can take him on a 4 mile walk through the hike
> and bike trails and he's at his usual fast pace the whole way. I think if
> it were something physical it would be consistent everywhere we go.
>
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
>
> > Julie,
> > I would suggest first making sure his slowing down is not due to something
> > physical. Have your vet check him out.
> >
> > HTH,
> > JD
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:12 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >
> >
> >> Hello all!
> >>
> >> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to
> >> work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about
> >> his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and
> >> he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has
> >> gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical
> >> pedestrian, to slow.
> >>
> >> There is road construction which means that my route to work has changed
> >> a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new way he's
> >> at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we are going,
> >> it's back to dragging his feet.
> >>
> >> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> >> work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to
> >> work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for
> >> leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his
> >> brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >>
> >> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> >> teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week
> >> and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty
> >> has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to
> >> where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going because he
> >> doesn't slow.
> >>
> >> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where
> >> he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate
> >> because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work
> >> for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not work
> >> Monty.
> >>
> >> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> >> similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide
> >> more information.
> >>
> >> thanks!
> >> Julie
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> nagdu mailing list
> >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:20:43 -0500
> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> You are probably correct there.
> Did anything happen recently on that route that may have made him cautious?
>
> JD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
>
> > He's due for a vet visit anyway and I'll mention it. However he only does
> > this on the way to work. I can take him on a 4 mile walk through the hike
> > and bike trails and he's at his usual fast pace the whole way. I think if
> > it were something physical it would be consistent everywhere we go.
> >
> > Julie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >
> >
> >> Julie,
> >> I would suggest first making sure his slowing down is not due to
> >> something physical. Have your vet check him out.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> JD
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:12 AM
> >> Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello all!
> >>>
> >>> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route to
> >>> work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much about
> >>> his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has changed and
> >>> he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His pace has
> >>> gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to typical
> >>> pedestrian, to slow.
> >>>
> >>> There is road construction which means that my route to work has
> >>> changed a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the new
> >>> way he's at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out where we
> >>> are going, it's back to dragging his feet.
> >>>
> >>> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> >>> work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to
> >>> work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for
> >>> leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his
> >>> brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >>>
> >>> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> >>> teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a week
> >>> and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations. Monty
> >>> has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are close to
> >>> where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going because he
> >>> doesn't slow.
> >>>
> >>> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where
> >>> he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at work.
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is unfortunate
> >>> because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing going to work
> >>> for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a reason to not
> >>> work Monty.
> >>>
> >>> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> >>> similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide
> >>> more information.
> >>>
> >>> thanks!
> >>> Julie
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nagdu mailing list
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> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:26:21 -0500
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
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> This has been going on for some time, gradually getting slower and slower.
> I did wonder if the construction equipment made him nervous or something.
> But we've had to go well around where they are working and it makes no
> difference. As soon as he figures out where we are going, he slows. I've
> changed the particular route we take every few days. He's good at first,
> but he catches on very quickly that it's the same old thing in a new
> wrapper! *smile*
>
> Julie
>
>
> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
>
>
> > You are probably correct there.
> > Did anything happen recently on that route that may have made him
> > cautious?
> >
> > JD
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >
> >
> >> He's due for a vet visit anyway and I'll mention it. However he only
> >> does this on the way to work. I can take him on a 4 mile walk through
> >> the hike and bike trails and he's at his usual fast pace the whole way.
> >> I think if it were something physical it would be consistent everywhere
> >> we go.
> >>
> >> Julie
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >>
> >>
> >>> Julie,
> >>> I would suggest first making sure his slowing down is not due to
> >>> something physical. Have your vet check him out.
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>> JD
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:12 AM
> >>> Subject: [nagdu] boredom on routine routes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello all!
> >>>>
> >>>> Monty has developed a new habit of going incredibly slow on our route
> >>>> to work. It started several months ago, but I didn't think too much
> >>>> about his being a bit slower in the morning. Now my schedule has
> >>>> changed and he's slow no matter what time of day I go to work. His
> >>>> pace has gradually decreased from his usual really fast, to fast, to
> >>>> typical pedestrian, to slow.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is road construction which means that my route to work has
> >>>> changed a few times in the past few weeks. The first time we go the
> >>>> new way he's at his usual fast pace, but as soon as he figures out
> >>>> where we are going, it's back to dragging his feet.
> >>>>
> >>>> My son had to run an errand downtown earlier this week, so he walked to
> >>>> work with me one afternoon. This is highly unusual. I always walk to
> >>>> work alone, but my son and I do frequently walk in the evenings for
> >>>> leisure. When my son was along, Monty was absolutely perfect with his
> >>>> brisk pace. I think he thought we were going someplace fun.
> >>>>
> >>>> The places I go on a weekly or less frequent basis, Monty is fine. I
> >>>> teach a class one evening a week, go to the middle school one day a
> >>>> week and attend various meetings and run errands at various locations.
> >>>> Monty has his regular pace to all of these places. Some of them are
> >>>> close to where I work, but he must have figured out where we are going
> >>>> because he doesn't slow.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a fairly quiet office job. Monty has a rug under my desk, where
> >>>> he generally sleeps. He shows no signs of stress or fear while at
> >>>> work.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm thinking he's bored with going to work with me. This is
> >>>> unfortunate because I haven't won the lottery and plan on continuing
> >>>> going to work for the foreseeable future. I don't see boredom as a
> >>>> reason to not work Monty.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would welcome all ideas, suggestions or things you have done in a
> >>>> similar situation. I'm also happy to answer any questions or provide
> >>>> more information.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks!
> >>>> Julie
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> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:30:14 -0500
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> I just really think that's the key. The excitement is gone once he has the route figured out and he's bored. I did discover that sometimes in my effort to get my dog to speed up I talk to him too much and he goes a little faster if I can just shut my mouth and try to relax, but it is irritating. I know there isn't anything wrong with the fella, though, because he can really go when he's excited.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:32:52 -0500
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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> I've tried treats, but they didn't have much lasting impact. Although when
> I used them, I didn't really have much in the way of a training plan in
> mind. I just gave him a treat every so often.
>
> I think I'll look for some higher value treats that might be more
> motivating. Then I'll come up with some very specific criteria to reward.
> Perhaps that will work better than my haphazard approach.
>
> I had thought of giving him some sort of really awesome thing once we got to
> work, a pig ear...or something. I'm not sure how that might work out.
> Have to think more on it.
>
> Julie
>
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