[nagdu] a blind consumer's RighttoChooserehabtraining(federalregs)

Sat Nov 12 23:13:24 UTC 2011

Mark,

Hey! I've been wondering how your new school year is going for you. Di 
you get a dog? How was your summer orientation on campus. Inquiring 
minds want to know! /grin/

Thanks for the mention of Dick Davis. I've been honored to learn quite a 
bit from him over the past few years from reading on the rehab 
counselors list. I get a lot of positive examples there and good answers 
when I come back with more questions about what I keep finding in Oregon.

He has offered to help me get into an NFB Center... Unfortunately, that 
was at about the time my mother died last spring, so I need to wait 
until Dad decides what he will do, and Wayne and I have been waiting on 
Dad to figure out what we're going to do, so... /lol/ Well, we want to 
relocate from our present location and want to leave ourselves free to 
move to where he wants to go on living if we need to. We're starting to 
make some decisions for ourselves, since we would rather stay around 
here, but we're not rushing to commit ourselves. Once we buy something 
here, we won't be free to move to La Grande, so...

The upshot being that I won't be able to find 6 to 9 months to go to any 
NFB Center until we're all settled, so I don't want to waste Mr. Davis' 
efforts only to have to tell him thanks, but I can't go. /shudder/

I am drafting up a letter to him asking if would take a substitute 
candidate for his assistance with the Oregon agency in the hopes tha 
this getting one person to an NFB center might break open the dam of 
refusal... I do not know this mystery candidate I just picked out of the 
air last week, but...

Anyway, I went Linux at last this summer and have been tackling the 
learning curve with the Orca screen reader and all the changes in Linux 
like ther is no tomorrow. Now that I'm working and actually getting 
things done and getting to more advanced projects, that is a big relief. 
I may evnevn be in the process of acquiring a real braille display... 
It's in the works, and I still can't believe any such thing is possible. 
/lol/ That will make a huge difference for me, though.

Thanks for the advice and encouragement. I hope you are doing well over 
there in Boston!

Tami

On 11/11/2011 09:21 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
> Tami,
>
>
>
> I suggest you talk to Dick Davis out at BLIND Inc. he has years of
> experience working to get blind consumers the training they need for
> success.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's
> RighttoChooserehabtraining(federalregs)
>
>
>> So what do you do, then, when you do your homework before you make
>> your first call and know what your needs are and formulate your
>> requests according to that in line with what the law and the policies
>> and procedures are and..And get nowhere. For years.
>>
>> What if you keep hearing that this is what happens to virtually
>> everyone you talk to.
>>
>> What if you learn that there is no recorse, that the agency is not
>> following the laws or the rules and regs because they don't actually
>> have to? Because there is no one to make them?
>>
>> Then where are you?And where are all your friends and acquaintances
>> and what do you tell them when they ask you what do do?
>>
>> Tami.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/11/2011 12:40 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> You don't march in, you ease in and tell your counsellor what you'd like
>>> to do and ask them how it can be accomplished.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right
>>> toChooserehabtraining(federalregs)
>>>
>>>
>>>> How is a blind consumer suposed to just march into their councilors
>>>> office, and tell him or her I want this or that? The councilor's know
>>>> these regulations back and forwards... They have excuses for
>>>> everything. Really this should be for the rehab councilor list. RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Criminal Justice Major
>>>> Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:39 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right to
>>>> Chooserehabtraining(federalregs)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, larry,
>>>>> I'll agree with you on this one and leave it alone too.
>>>>> Since I don't know that much about those individuals, will leave it
>>>>> as that.
>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>> Bibi and Odie
>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>
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