[nagdu] FW: Why good O&M training is so important

[Tami Kinney]

Aaron,

Thanks for this. I've been mulling over what I think about it, and you 
clarified things for me.

It's some pretty fine distinction. I cringe at the idea that this is a 
representation of The Blind while at the same time hoping the individual 
is safe and lives well within his own life context... Without getting in 
trouble crossing the street. /smile/

I must be confident enough consistently enough whenever I cross the 
street myself that I'm finally getting around to worrying about how 
other people cross the street. Can I claim this as progress? /grin/

Tami

On 11/12/2011 04:10 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> I understand that we are all at different levels in what we can and
> can't do.  However, my concern with this video is that it was marketed
> as "this is how blind people do this" rather than "this is how one
> blind person does things".  I agree that we should not be criticizing
> other folks simply because they don't do things the way we think they
> should.  However, when a blind person holds themselves out as a
> representative example of our entire class, then I think we have every
> right to critique their message.
>
> Aaron
>
> On 11/10/11, Natalie<nrorrell at qwest.net>  wrote:
>> Amen to that, Rebecca.  Everyone has their own ways of doing things, and
>> this should be respected, always, whether the person is blind, sighted,
>> whatever.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Why good O&M training is so important
>>
>>
>>> Even if this person has minimual skills, so what? We were all FNG's once
>>> upon a time.
>>> And if this person were sighted and for whatever reson needed some extra
>>> help, we wouldn't be slamming him and the technology he uses.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 3:39 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Why good O&M training is so important
>>>
>>> I think the issues of the person's independence vs. the whether or not to
>>> have ATS are separate things, and I think it is a shame to use someone
>>> with minimal skills to show the need. The ATS should be appropriate and
>>> should be just another tool. I would like more of them myself out where I
>>> am and some other places, too, but I can function without them. In the
>>> airport I do enlist help, but now that I have a lot of time between some
>>> of my flights, I am using it to explore airports, which I am finding
>>> liberating. People will use whatever assistance they need but that, like
>>> ATS, is a tool and need not be a requirement. I hate to think of someone
>>> going off on the inconvenience of traveling around. Hope this made some
>>> sense.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
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