[nagdu] going on a bus

Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire orleans24 at comcast.net
Sun Nov 13 03:23:39 UTC 2011


Hi, Steve,
Unfortunately Odie won't slide under the seats that are lined up behind one 
another.
I've tried that with all of my guide dogs, but since they've all ended up 
being large labradors, they kept getting caught and stuck up underneath the 
seat I sat on and the one in front of me.
*Awful*
Twice in a separate time on the bus, Freedom David Berry ended up slipping 
out of his harness when it got stuck on the seat in front of us.
After a while, Odie and I would just go to the back of the bus if need be.
In the back especially if the bus was too full up front, Odie was more 
comfortable and passengers seemed more considerate toward us in the back of 
the bus.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus


> Marilyn,
> Why do you say there is more room in the front of the bus?  Most certainly
> it may depend on the buses, but my experience, and this is based on the 
> fact
> that I use the bus multiple times a day, is that there is more and more
> appropriate seating for us with our guides in the middle of the bus where
> one can essential slide the dog under the seat to where they are not in
> jeopardy of being stepped on.  Just curious about your experience with 
> this.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of marilyn
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:45 AM
> To: nagdu
> Subject: [nagdu] going on a bus
>
> Hi Sean,
> you had some experience on the bus. I have gone through that many times. 
> The
> drivers know the first two front seats are for disabled people. Why ?
> because there is more room. Back in the 80's when I was commuting to the
> Helen Keller School to learn computer I had to take a bus in a bad
> neighborhood to get to the train. A woman got on at a stop and saw me and
> started to scream about the dog and wanted me thrown off the bus. She said
> those people shouldn't be allowed on public transportation. The driver 
> told
> her to step off the bus and wait for another one as he was not throwing me
> off with my dog. I told the woman those people (meaning me) have more 
> rights
> to ride the bus than you do. your sighted you can drive a car I can't. I
> don't have a choice. the driver was very nice and said he liked my come
> back.
> Another time I was meeting a friend at a bus stop and we were going on to
> the NYC for the day. She was a cane user and I had my dog. On the train a
> man got on and asked me to sit in a different car because my dog was evil. 
> I
> had Parker a black lab. He said black dogs are evil. I told him I was not
> moving and he could go sit in another car. I told him my dog is a blessing
> from GOD and its dog backwards no matter what color my dog is . the
> conductor said he had a turban on his head. My friend was nervous and said
> that is why I won't get a dog. to many problems. I said there are no
> problems with you stand up for your rights. Its educating the public. We 
> had
> a wonderful time in the city with no problems.
> Marilyn and Anna
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