[nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and thenegativeimpact

Wed Nov 16 13:34:05 UTC 2011

Hey Rebecca,

I think that part of the challenge here is that a lot of people, including
legitimate service dog handlers, do not know about or understand the new
definition of service dogs.  I guess we could say that conversely,
businesses do not either, but my experience in those that have tried to
*fake* a service dog access, state that their dog is for *emotional
support*.  Again, we know that this is not allowable under the current
definition, but herein lies the problem that I think that we all face, and
that is education.  I don't mind being asked the correct questions, but rest
assured that someone who is not a legitimate handler will put up a pretty
interesting scene screaming and claiming discrimination if they are denied.
Do we think for a minute that the business owner will budge?  Only if they
are educated.  Just my take as I recently dealt with a similar situation
with a hotel here in my area where the hotel owner had no clue about the
law, and once we were done, he at least had the bare minimum tools to
address possible abuse of this law.

JMO,
Steve

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and
thenegativeimpact

Won't people just make up an answer though?

-----Original Message-----
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Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and
thenegativeimpact

Tami,
    I think that, if places of public accommodation make it a practice to
ask everyone who enters with a service dog those questions, no matter how
obvious it may seem to them, it will cut down on the abuses by those who
have no place bringing their pet into the entity. JMHO!

Marion

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and
thenegativeimpact

> Marion,
>
> Operant conditioning rocks! /lol/
>
> Thanking employees and commending them to their bosses and companies for
> their good behavior and professionalism, as you and Merry did, always
> seems to me to be an important but of-forgotten facet of education and
> communication.
>
> I will confess that with my guide dog, I will probably never get over the
> urge to burst out laughing and blurt out, "What does it *look* like she
> does?!" /lol/
>
> So to overcompensate, I absolutely gush about how wonderful it is that
> this employee did this relatively simple thing so perfectly and superbly
> and they are the greatest person to ever liv... /lol/ I always feel a
> little silly, like I'm going nearly as far as I just mocked myself for
> doing into the realm of absurdity, but... I do beleive it is important to
> remember to do that.
>
> Also, it's kinda fun, don't you think? /grin/
>
> Tami
>
> On 11/15/2011 11:41 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>> Merry and I went into a local supermarket the other day. A manager
>> approached us to ask if our dogs were service dogs and what service they
>> performed. I called the headquarters to tell them how much I appreciated
>> them training their employees to ask the right questions. Perhaps if we
>> encouraged all places of public accommodation to inquire, even when it
>> might seem obvious what service the dog performed, fewer people would
>> try to get one over on the places of public accommodation.
>>
>> fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and the
>> negativeimpact
>>
>>
>>> I think it is frightening to read these stories about the fake service
>>> dogs. What do they mean in the end for people who truly are using and
>>> need their dogs? I truly would hate to see us having to all have
>>> identification at the ready to show; and what would that mean for
>>> people who are training their own? Would they have to get a doggie
>>> drier's license kind of like a state ID? It just seems a shame that
>>> people abuse this because their dogs are actually people with four
>>> paws? They are not no matter how you dress them up.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
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