[nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs andthenegativeimpact

Thu Nov 17 23:49:57 UTC 2011

Hi Marion,
Great idea!  I do think that if managers and employees of places asked these 
questions, it would cut down on the fake service dogs.  But, I wonder how to 
GET the employees to ask the questions in the first place?  So many 
employees don't bother to even come around to ask if we need help - as 
employees did back before the 1960s.  This was a huge complaint of my Dad's 
experiences in a place of business.

The other thing is that store owners and employees - who know what to even 
ask in the first place - is the fear of making a mistake and risking 
somebody suiing them.  If the topic of these dogs comes up, I try my best to 
make the store owners aware of what the law is and that they can throw oout 
the folks with the fake service dogs - especially the ones who disrupt 
things and are untrained.  I show them and tell them about the proper 
behavior of a real service dog.  And they really appreciate that.

Happy Thanksgiving to all next Thursday!  That is the USA folks.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs 
andthenegativeimpact

> Tami,
>    I think that, if places of public accommodation make it a practice to 
> ask everyone who enters with a service dog those questions, no matter how 
> obvious it may seem to them, it will cut down on the abuses by those who 
> have no place bringing their pet into the entity. JMHO!
>
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and 
> thenegativeimpact
>
>
>> Marion,
>>
>> Operant conditioning rocks! /lol/
>>
>> Thanking employees and commending them to their bosses and companies for 
>> their good behavior and professionalism, as you and Merry did, always 
>> seems to me to be an important but of-forgotten facet of education and 
>> communication.
>>
>> I will confess that with my guide dog, I will probably never get over the 
>> urge to burst out laughing and blurt out, "What does it *look* like she 
>> does?!" /lol/
>>
>> So to overcompensate, I absolutely gush about how wonderful it is that 
>> this employee did this relatively simple thing so perfectly and superbly 
>> and they are the greatest person to ever liv... /lol/ I always feel a 
>> little silly, like I'm going nearly as far as I just mocked myself for 
>> doing into the realm of absurdity, but... I do beleive it is important to 
>> remember to do that.
>>
>> Also, it's kinda fun, don't you think? /grin/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 11/15/2011 11:41 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>>> Merry and I went into a local supermarket the other day. A manager
>>> approached us to ask if our dogs were service dogs and what service they
>>> performed. I called the headquarters to tell them how much I appreciated
>>> them training their employees to ask the right questions. Perhaps if we
>>> encouraged all places of public accommodation to inquire, even when it
>>> might seem obvious what service the dog performed, fewer people would
>>> try to get one over on the places of public accommodation.
>>>
>>> fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT: Fake service dogs and the
>>> negativeimpact
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think it is frightening to read these stories about the fake service
>>>> dogs. What do they mean in the end for people who truly are using and
>>>> need their dogs? I truly would hate to see us having to all have
>>>> identification at the ready to show; and what would that mean for
>>>> people who are training their own? Would they have to get a doggie
>>>> drier's license kind of like a state ID? It just seems a shame that
>>>> people abuse this because their dogs are actually people with four
>>>> paws? They are not no matter how you dress them up.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>>
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