[nagdu] canes was new member

Sat Oct 8 22:08:16 UTC 2011

These oppinions are rather interesting, Julie!  I just never thaught about 
it!  They said put up your cane so I did!  I got around great and then I 
learned about dogs and still got around great!  I am totally blind and have 
been sence 10.  I have always had a good sence of direction so, it really 
didn't bother me.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] canes was new member


> Albert,
>
> I don't know about others but I don't feel dependent on my cane.  And I 
> sure don't have any emotional attachment to it.  At least not any more 
> than I feel dependent or attached to my shoes.  they are nice shoes, but I 
> can get another pair.  Would I walk around outside of my house without my 
> shoes or cane, perhaps, but not very quickly, comfortably or confidently.
>
> I can understand the theory of setting aside the cane before getting a 
> dog, but in practice I don't think it works very well for what it's 
> supposed to be achieving.
>
> IMHO
> Julie
> On 10/8/2011 12:07 PM, Albert J Rizzi wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I also believe it has to do with separating ourselves from the dependency 
>> or
>> reliance upon the cane. This further allows for a better bonding with the
>> guide once introduced. In my personal experience the cane was set aside 
>> for
>> the first two days prior to being given our guide. hope that sheds 
>> another
>> perspective  on this requirement at the  schools. It is much like the
>> requirement of not using a guide dog when at those retreats where only a
>> cane is permitted during the day to day portion of  the programs run by 
>> the
>> nfb
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:33 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] canes was new member
>>
>> Julie,
>>
>> Yes, I agree orientation skills are important, but what I don't
>> understand is why you need to demonstrate them without a cane.  It makes
>> no sense to me.
>>
>> Julie.
>>
>> On 10/8/2011 10:22 AM, Julie Phillipson wrote:
>>> Julie some schools do this  I think to see how well your orientation
>>> skills are and to see if  you can problem solve and figure your way to
>>> a certain place like to meals.  As you know we are always saying if
>>> you do not have good orientation skills a dog can get you lost very
>>> quickly if you don't know where you are going or how to get there
>>> yourself.
>>> Julie Phillipson
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J."<julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 9:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] canes was new member
>>>
>>>
>>>> Larry,
>>>>
>>>> Why does it matter how well you get around without your cane?  I'm so
>>>> confused and concerned.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>> On 10/7/2011 9:53 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>> tHEY DO IT AT pilot as well.  They do it to see how well you get
>>>>> around without it.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Some one told me at south eastern, they make you put your
>>>>>> cane up. Why do they have you do this? RJ
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Robertson"
>>>>>> <srobertson at roadrunner.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users"<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome to you RJ.My name is Sean Robertson, And I have a 4 year
>>>>>>> old yello lab named Archie, He's my first dog. And I hope you like
>>>>>>> it on the list.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>>>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To:<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 7:13 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, My name is RJ Sandefur, and I am a new member to this list.
>>>>>>>> I'm applying to south eastern guide dogs. If any one has had any
>>>>>>>> experience with this school good or bad, please share. So far,
>>>>>>>> the staff person whose been assisting me has been helpful. RJ
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