[nagdu] navigating without your cane
Margo and Arrow
margo.downey at verizon.net
Sat Oct 8 23:48:43 UTC 2011
cheryl, good for you! I do not comprehend why people think if you know how
to get aorund somewhere that you don't need a cane or dog. Environments do
not always remain the same.
Margo and Arrow
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From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
> being a graduate of GDF in 2007, I used my cane when I was without maxx,
> only one time someone said to me, cheryl you know the lay down the school
> by now, do you really still need the cane, and I said well the last time I
> noticed I was still blind. It was in a joke way, when I said it.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Margo and Arrow<mailto:margo.downey at verizon.net>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
>
>
> Jenine, I can't speak to prior to 1981 but in 1981 we had to use canes.
> If
> you didn't have a dog in hand, it was requested in our class anyway to go
> get the cane and use it.
>
> seeing Eye emphasizes the keeping up of cane skills even after you get
> your
> dog.
>
> I personally think that using the cane at a school if you aren't working
> with your dog is a good thing because it emphasizes using the cane as
> well.
>
> I have used my cane all four times I've been at the eye if I didn't have
> a
> dog. I did not find switching from cane to dog that difficult. Yes, my
> instructor did mention some things I was doing that were carryovers from
> cane usage and that they weren't necessary with a dog.
>
> Margo and Arrow
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com<mailto:jeninems at wowway.com>>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
>
>
> > Cindy and other TSE grads,
> >
> >
> > Has TSE always had that policy of allowing you to use your cane prior
> to
> > receiving the dog? Just curious as I'd thought they used to force
> people
> > to
> > put away their canes and learn the building sans cane before getting a
> > dog.
> >
> > I don't think there's a right or wrong to either way of doing things,
> > allowing or not allowing canes. It's not so much breaking an emotional
> > attachment as breaking a kinesthetic one, muscle memory and all that.
> For
> > me
> > with my very first dog, the switch from leading or getting input from
> the
> > right side of my body, my cane hand, arm and shoulder, to the left
> side, a
> > very hard pulling dog, was tough. The time without a cane to equalize
> that
> > input did help some.
> >
> > Jenine Stanley
> > jeninems at wowway.com<mailto:jeninems at wowway.com>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of Cindy Ray
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:58 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
> >
> > Well, TSE has you use the cane to help you orient yourself to the
> building
> > for the time until you receive the dog. Then until the dog is in
> harness,
> > you heel the dog throughout the building. I think this is a good thing
> > because you have come to feel fairly confident about the building by
> the
> > time you get your dog and you can truly heel it rather than
> inadvertently
> > reverting to having it lead you where it thinks you want to go even if
> it
> > is
> > on leash. The first dog I got there was just from Saturday afternoon
> until
> > Sunday afternoon when the dogs were issued. This would not have
> hampered
> > or
> > improved my transition to the dog one way or the other. Now I've been
> > there
> > enough that I would be confident either way, and once I did a Juno walk
> > right before a meal so had to return without the cane. It wasn't a
> > problem.
> > No cane after we got the dogs though.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
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