[nagdu] navigating without your cane

Margo and Arrow margo.downey at verizon.net
Sat Oct 8 23:48:43 UTC 2011


cheryl, good for you!  I do not comprehend why people think if you know how 
to get aorund somewhere that you don't need a cane or dog.  Environments do 
not always remain the same.

Margo and Arrow
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From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane


> being a graduate of GDF in 2007, I used my cane when I was without maxx, 
> only one time someone said to me, cheryl you know the lay down the school 
> by now, do you really still need the cane, and I said well the last time I 
> noticed I was still blind. It was in a joke way, when I said it.
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>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Margo and Arrow<mailto:margo.downey at verizon.net>
>  To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:32 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
>
>
>  Jenine, I can't speak to prior to 1981 but in 1981 we had to use canes. 
> If
>  you didn't have a dog in hand, it was requested in our class anyway to go
>  get the cane and use it.
>
>  seeing Eye emphasizes the keeping up of cane skills even after you get 
> your
>  dog.
>
>  I personally think that using the cane at a school if you aren't working
>  with your dog is a good thing because it emphasizes using the cane as 
> well.
>
>  I have used my cane all four times I've been at the eye if I didn't have 
> a
>  dog.  I did not find switching from cane to dog that difficult.  Yes, my
>  instructor did mention some things I was doing that were carryovers from
>  cane usage and that they weren't necessary with a dog.
>
>  Margo and Arrow
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com<mailto:jeninems at wowway.com>>
>  To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>  <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>  Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 3:57 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
>
>
>  > Cindy and other TSE grads,
>  >
>  >
>  > Has TSE always had that policy of allowing you to use your cane prior 
> to
>  > receiving the dog? Just curious as I'd thought they used to force 
> people
>  > to
>  > put away their canes and learn the building sans cane before getting a
>  > dog.
>  >
>  > I don't think there's a right or wrong to either way of doing things,
>  > allowing or not allowing canes. It's not so much breaking an emotional
>  > attachment as breaking a kinesthetic one, muscle memory and all that. 
> For
>  > me
>  > with my very first dog, the switch from leading or getting input from 
> the
>  > right side of my body, my cane hand, arm and shoulder, to the left 
> side, a
>  > very hard pulling dog, was tough. The time without a cane to equalize 
> that
>  > input did help some.
>  >
>  > Jenine Stanley
>  > jeninems at wowway.com<mailto:jeninems at wowway.com>
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> 
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>  > Of Cindy Ray
>  > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:58 PM
>  > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>  > Subject: Re: [nagdu] navigating without your cane
>  >
>  > Well, TSE has you use the cane to help you orient yourself to the 
> building
>  > for the time until you receive the dog. Then until the dog is in 
> harness,
>  > you heel the dog throughout the building. I think this is a good thing
>  > because you have come to feel fairly confident about the building by 
> the
>  > time you get your dog and you can truly heel it rather than 
> inadvertently
>  > reverting to having it lead you where it thinks you want to go even if 
> it
>  > is
>  > on leash. The first dog I got there was just from Saturday afternoon 
> until
>  > Sunday afternoon when the dogs were issued. This  would not have 
> hampered
>  > or
>  > improved my transition to the dog one way or the other. Now I've been
>  > there
>  > enough that I would be confident either way, and once I did a Juno walk
>  > right before a meal so had to return without the cane. It wasn't a
>  > problem.
>  > No cane after we got the dogs though.
>  > Cindy
>  >
>  >
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