[nagdu] guide dog schools

Sat Oct 15 23:57:39 UTC 2011

I completely agree with all you've said Lea especially about the ownership
part. :)

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Lea williams
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:48 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools

Hey everyone. I am new on this list andhave been reading the messages and
messaging a few off list. I am looking in to a guide dog too, but this thred
is Hannah's and not mine but for the partual ownership thing my thoughts on
it are these.

I understand that a guide dog user would wantfull ownership of their dog as
soon as they graduate, but it is not always about the owner having
ownership, but also about the safey of the dog. If someone seems to be a
good person to have a dog, and the school give them fullownership and they
go home and start to abuse the dog, over feed it, or whatever the case might
be, the school would have a much harder time to take back the dog for it's
own safey. If you believe that you can be responciple enough to take care of
the dog the correct way and maintain its health and training, then you have
nothing to worry about.

Hannah, you have described guiding eyes for the blind, try to look in to
them.
They pay up to $200 anual for vet care, and maybe more if their are some
very bad health issues.
They keep ownership for the first two years to insure the safey of the dog
and to make sure that both the owner and the dog works out well.
They have tuns of reps all up and down the east coast, not sure of anyplace
else.
They do come out and check on you and your dog for the first few years to
insure your doing fine and the dog is not getting fat or losing it's
training.
They really seem to care about both the dog and the people getting the dogs.
Now if you are one of those people who insist on complete privacy, control
and want to be the one to go to the school for help, then I do not think you
would like this school.
I know i am responcible enough to do these things myself but, i have heard a
lot of good things threw other friends about this school and would like to
look in to them more myself.
All to their own.
If your a bit nervous and would feel more at ease with having someone
checking up on you every now and then to make sure your doing ok,then hey
you might like them after all. It is not as if they are going to be spying
on you every day or something, they just want to know that you and your dog
are getting along well and nothing wrong is going on.

Now i have seen some peopel who has gotten a dog and abused it but they have
full ownership of their dog and their is not much the school can do about it
now. Is it fare to those dogs to get misstreated and noone come rescue them
like that? At least if a dog from guiding eyes is being misstreated they
have a chance of being rescued,

These are my thoughts and
my understanding that not all think like me.

Lea williams

On 10/15/11, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> I know I can pay for food and toys and such but sometimes vet bills 
> can be pretty costly. Also it seems like some guide dog schools work 
> with petco to offer discounts.
> I think sharing ownership for the first year or so would reassure me 
> in case something goes wrong with the dog.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:08 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>
> Hi Hannah,
> One of the things you might want to consider as many of have been 
> there or are in a very similar situation as yours, is to check with 
> your vet to see if you can make monthly payments on your bill.  My 
> guide's vet costs annually for her major spring work up are usually 
> pushing $400+.  The other thing is to see if they offer a reduced rate 
> or discount to service dog users...many do.
> Now on the first part of your post, you might want to really look at 
> the idea of ownership closely.  I do know that Leader Dogs for 
> theBlind has a 2-year wait until one can apply for ownership which I 
> personally find unacceptable.  Ownership to many of us on this list is 
> a big part of our independence, and the NAGDU continues to advocate 
> hard to get all schools to grant ownership upon graduation.  Let me 
> ask, that is if you feel comfortable in answering to the group, but 
> why do you think you need to have a time period before ownership is
granted?  Curious minds want to know.
>
> BTW, my name is Steve and I am working my 3rd black lab from Leader 
> Dogs.  I have had my guides since 1992, and I am the current President 
> of the Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Hannah Chadwick
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:55 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>
> Hi all,
> I think working with a school with many representatives in a lot of 
> the States would be a plus for me in case something goes wrong. Also 
> I'd want to attend a school where I don't have complete ownership of 
> the dog, at least for now since I'm a college student. Being a college 
> student, I will also need financial help from the guide dog school for 
> vets. I'm not sure if this is asking for a lot or if there are any schools
that offer these things.
> Please let me know if you have suggestions or ideas.
> Thanks in advance, Hannah
>
>
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