[nagdu] guide dog schools

Sun Oct 16 02:10:50 UTC 2011

I am not sure about that!  Most of the schools give you school tags.  I have 
left mine on because one service Pilot provides that I find valuable is that 
they will call you if your dog is picked up by someone.  I had that happen 
to me once about 2 months after I came home.  Holly got out and took me for 
a merry chase!  Pilot called and gave me the phone number and I walked up 
and got her.  Fortunately, it was just behind the house!  You should also be 
able to report the tag and Pilot will investigate!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools


> Hey everyone. I am new on this list andhave been reading the messages
> and messaging a few off list. I am looking in to a guide dog too, but
> this thred is Hannah's and not mine but for the partual ownership
> thing my thoughts on it are these.
>
> I understand that a guide dog user would wantfull ownership of their
> dog as soon as they graduate, but it is not always about the owner
> having ownership, but also about the safey of the dog. If someone
> seems to be a good person to have a dog, and the school give them
> fullownership and they go home and start to abuse the dog, over feed
> it, or whatever the case might be, the school would have a much harder
> time to take back the dog for it's own safey. If you believe that you
> can be responciple enough to take care of the dog the correct way and
> maintain its health and training, then you have nothing to worry
> about.
>
> Hannah, you have described guiding eyes for the blind, try to look in to 
> them.
> They pay up to $200 anual for vet care, and maybe more if their are
> some very bad health issues.
> They keep ownership for the first two years to insure the safey of the
> dog and to make sure that both the owner and the dog works out well.
> They have tuns of reps all up and down the east coast, not sure of
> anyplace else.
> They do come out and check on you and your dog for the first few years
> to insure your doing fine and the dog is not getting fat or losing
> it's training.
> They really seem to care about both the dog and the people getting the
> dogs. Now if you are one of those people who insist on complete
> privacy, control and want to be the one to go to the school for help,
> then I do not think you would like this school.
> I know i am responcible enough to do these things myself but, i have
> heard a lot of good things threw other friends about this school and
> would like to look in to them more myself.
> All to their own.
> If your a bit nervous and would feel more at ease with having someone
> checking up on you every now and then to make sure your doing ok,then
> hey you might like them after all. It is not as if they are going to
> be spying on you every day or something, they just want to know that
> you and your dog are getting along well and nothing wrong is going on.
>
> Now i have seen some peopel who has gotten a dog and abused it but
> they have full ownership of their dog and their is not much the school
> can do about it now. Is it fare to those dogs to get misstreated and
> noone come rescue them like that? At least if a dog from guiding eyes
> is being misstreated they have a chance of being rescued,
>
> These are my thoughts and
> my understanding that not all think like me.
>
> Lea williams
>
> On 10/15/11, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>> I know I can pay for food and toys and such but sometimes vet bills can 
>> be
>> pretty costly. Also it seems like some guide dog schools work with petco 
>> to
>> offer discounts.
>> I think sharing ownership for the first year or so would reassure me in 
>> case
>> something goes wrong with the dog.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Steven Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:08 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>> One of the things you might want to consider as many of have been there 
>> or
>> are in a very similar situation as yours, is to check with your vet to 
>> see
>> if you can make monthly payments on your bill.  My guide's vet costs
>> annually for her major spring work up are usually pushing $400+.  The 
>> other
>> thing is to see if they offer a reduced rate or discount to service dog
>> users...many do.
>> Now on the first part of your post, you might want to really look at the
>> idea of ownership closely.  I do know that Leader Dogs for theBlind has a
>> 2-year wait until one can apply for ownership which I personally find
>> unacceptable.  Ownership to many of us on this list is a big part of our
>> independence, and the NAGDU continues to advocate hard to get all schools 
>> to
>> grant ownership upon graduation.  Let me ask, that is if you feel
>> comfortable in answering to the group, but why do you think you need to 
>> have
>> a time period before ownership is granted?  Curious minds want to know.
>>
>> BTW, my name is Steve and I am working my 3rd black lab from Leader Dogs. 
>> I
>> have had my guides since 1992, and I am the current President of the
>> Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:55 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I think working with a school with many representatives in a lot of the
>> States would be a plus for me in case something goes wrong. Also I'd want 
>> to
>> attend a school where I don't have complete ownership of the dog, at 
>> least
>> for now since I'm a college student. Being a college student, I will also
>> need financial help from the guide dog school for vets. I'm not sure if 
>> this
>> is asking for a lot or if there are any schools that offer these things.
>> Please let me know if you have suggestions or ideas.
>> Thanks in advance, Hannah
>>
>>
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