[nagdu] no result

Sun Oct 16 17:52:43 UTC 2011

well OK but since you looked it up then it must be more like near Syracuse. 
There is a creek here named Cazenovia creek and I think my niece coached 
cheerleading there for a game recently too.  Not in the creek but at the 
high school in Cazenovia!  Hay sorry I spelled your name wrong.  I am not a 
good speller any way, thank goodness for spell checkers!  Unfortunately it 
misses most names but then different people spell Cheryl in different ways.
Julie Phillipson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result


>I looked it up anyway Julie, wow you really goofed on my name for shame 
>ROFL. Madame Secretary. LOL.
>
> I always like to learn especially in my business.
>
> Need to know about NY, so I can sell it as well.
>
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> 631-456-5394
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in 
> Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, 
> Inc.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie Phillipson" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>
>
>> Larry it is in upstate New York near Buffalo.  I thought I would answer 
>> this
>> because charel is Long Island which is the other end of the state and I 
>> am
>> in  Buffalo which is more near where Cazenovia is.
>> Julie Phillipson
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>>
>>
>> > Cheryl, sence you are from New york, where is Cazenovia?  You can write
>> > offlist if you choose but my daughter coached soccer there yesterday.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:20 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>> >
>> >
>> >> you are so welcome.
>> >>
>> >> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>> >>
>> >> Cheryl Echevarria
>> >> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>> >> 631-456-5394
>> >> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >>
>> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located 
>> >> in
>> >> Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>> >>
>> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel,
>> >> Inc.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:12 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I only mentioned the NFB website because thats where I found the list 
>> >>> of
>> >>> schools.  Thanks Cheryl for pointing other places where it can be 
>> >>> found!
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:05 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > This is also members at large, which is you are part of the NFB, 
>> >>> > but
>> >>> > you
>> >>> > don't belong to a chapter.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Cheryl Echevarria
>> >>> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>> >>> > 631-456-5394
>> >>> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, 
>> >>> > located
>> >>> > in
>> >>> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & 
>> >>> > Travel,
>> >>> > Inc.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> >>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >>> > Users"
>> >>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:55 PM
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Sounds like a plan.  I didn't think that all the listers weren't 
>> >>> >> also
>> >>> >> NFB
>> >>> >> members.  Also, I'm not even a current member as there is no 
>> >>> >> chapter
>> >>> >> close
>> >>> >> enough to me although I have contact with the Beach Cities chapter 
>> >>> >> in
>> >>> >> Carlsbad, CA.  I was an active member of NFB back in the late 90s
>> >>> >> until
>> >>> >> 2001
>> >>> >> when our local chapter died for lack of interest.  San Diego has
>> >>> >> always
>> >>> >> been
>> >>> >> an ACB territory - there's two chapters of that here but they 
>> >>> >> really
>> >>> >> could
>> >>> >> merge to get a larger amoount of members.  But, it is what it is.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Bibi, hopefully, this problem gets resolved favorably for you.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Lyn and Landon
>> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> >>> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >>> >> Users"
>> >>> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:20 AM
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > Bibi may not be part of the NFB Lyn. So we should be asking her 
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > contact
>> >>> >> > her local NFB Chapter or we can give her the information in her
>> >>> >> > state
>> >>> >> > for
>> >>> >> > them.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > There are many on this list that comes to learn and listen, 
>> >>> >> > whether
>> >>> >> > they
>> >>> >> > are guide dog users, puppy raisers, or sponsor a dog. So they 
>> >>> >> > may
>> >>> >> > not
>> >>> >> > be
>> >>> >> > part of the organization.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > The lists are free to anyone who needs to know more about us.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > So I am asking.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Bibi, should you need the contact in your state for the 
>> >>> >> > President
>> >>> >> > we
>> >>> >> > can
>> >>> >> > get you that information, and that person, get you in touch with
>> >>> >> > that
>> >>> >> > chapter president.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Have a great day all.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
>> >>> >> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>> >>> >> > 631-456-5394
>> >>> >> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel,
>> >>> >> > located
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise &
>> >>> >> > Travel,
>> >>> >> > Inc.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> >> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> >>> >> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> >>> >> > Users"
>> >>> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:00 PM
>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Hi Bibi,
>> >>> >> >> Just for clarification:  Just what does Odie do for you if she
>> >>> >> >> isn't a
>> >>> >> >> guide
>> >>> >> >> dog?  Can you just use her as a guide dog and the apartment
>> >>> >> >> manager
>> >>> >> >> has
>> >>> >> >> no
>> >>> >> >> choice but to accept her presence?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> With the many years of folks abusing the ADA and what exactly 
>> >>> >> >> is a
>> >>> >> >> service
>> >>> >> >> dog, they have now caused this problem that affects all of us 
>> >>> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> one
>> >>> >> >> way
>> >>> >> >> or
>> >>> >> >> another.  You know, with people bringing their untrained pet 
>> >>> >> >> dogs
>> >>> >> >> into
>> >>> >> >> public spaces and the dogs create problems with bad behavior. 
>> >>> >> >> I
>> >>> >> >> think
>> >>> >> >> most
>> >>> >> >> people are more confused about this than they were before the
>> >>> >> >> abuse of
>> >>> >> >> ADA.
>> >>> >> >> I'm glad that the ADA has finally changed its regulations but 
>> >>> >> >> it
>> >>> >> >> should
>> >>> >> >> have
>> >>> >> >> been done years ago before all the problems got out of hand.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm sorry you're having these problems.  Hey, where's your 
>> >>> >> >> local
>> >>> >> >> NFB
>> >>> >> >> chapter
>> >>> >> >> and why don't they put their money where their mouth is and 
>> >>> >> >> help
>> >>> >> >> you?
>> >>> >> >> If
>> >>> >> >> your dog is TRAINED to do tasks for your disabilities, then 
>> >>> >> >> you're
>> >>> >> >> covered
>> >>> >> >> by ADA, period and that apartment manager should be in trouble
>> >>> >> >> over it
>> >>> >> >> all.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Lyn and Landon
>> >>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> >> >> From: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire"
>> >>> >> >> <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> >>> >> >> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> >>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:30 AM
>> >>> >> >> Subject: [nagdu] no result
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > Hi, all,
>> >>> >> >> > Service dog battle still continues on and there's no result 
>> >>> >> >> > as
>> >>> >> >> > of
>> >>> >> >> > yet.
>> >>> >> >> > When I spoke with the assistant manager, next response I got 
>> >>> >> >> > was
>> >>> >> >> > that
>> >>> >> >> > CHAFA and some other founders of the apartment complex are 
>> >>> >> >> > now
>> >>> >> >> > standing
>> >>> >> >> > by
>> >>> >> >> > the manager's side and stating that service dogs fall under 
>> >>> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> > pet
>> >>> >> >> > rules,
>> >>> >> >> > which I stated before they don't go under there.
>> >>> >> >> > So, off to the Colorado Cross Disability Colision I go Monday
>> >>> >> >> > with
>> >>> >> >> > all
>> >>> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> > necessary appropriate paperwork I need to back myself up in 
>> >>> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> > hopes I
>> >>> >> >> > can get further.
>> >>> >> >> > I immediately had a letter written by Doctor Jeremy Long 
>> >>> >> >> > which
>> >>> >> >> > will
>> >>> >> >> > be
>> >>> >> >> > out
>> >>> >> >> > in the mail and I'll have my hands on it.
>> >>> >> >> > I was so frustrated and angry yesterday afternoon, that I
>> >>> >> >> > actually
>> >>> >> >> > felt
>> >>> >> >> > as
>> >>> >> >> > if I wanted to just go downstairs and punch the apartment
>> >>> >> >> > manager.
>> >>> >> >> > This would not have been the first time I felt the need to 
>> >>> >> >> > just
>> >>> >> >> > destroy
>> >>> >> >> > her into many pieces.
>> >>> >> >> > It's happened before a couple years back and other times.
>> >>> >> >> > That didn't happen as I took the smart approach and 
>> >>> >> >> > immediately
>> >>> >> >> > contacted
>> >>> >> >> > the Outtpaitient Behavioral Services department at Denver 
>> >>> >> >> > Health
>> >>> >> >> > Medical
>> >>> >> >> > and ended up being connected to a crysis nurse who was able 
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > help
>> >>> >> >> > talk
>> >>> >> >> > me through what was going on and happening.
>> >>> >> >> > Normally to do another intake if not seen at a particular 
>> >>> >> >> > clenic
>> >>> >> >> > for
>> >>> >> >> > a
>> >>> >> >> > long time can be three weeks out.
>> >>> >> >> > Scott the nurse felt that was too long for me to wait, so 
>> >>> >> >> > he's
>> >>> >> >> > going
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > try and push to get me in sooner.
>> >>> >> >> > I told him that a couple years back, I worked with Dr.
>> >>> >> >> > Lowdermilk
>> >>> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> > was
>> >>> >> >> > told that she permamently works there now.
>> >>> >> >> > Scott's hope is to be able to get me connected with DR.
>> >>> >> >> > Lowdermilk
>> >>> >> >> > so I
>> >>> >> >> > can get in or at least, she would be able to talk with me
>> >>> >> >> > directly.
>> >>> >> >> > I wonder if it just may be me personally, but maybe others 
>> >>> >> >> > may
>> >>> >> >> > go
>> >>> >> >> > through
>> >>> >> >> > similarities as me.
>> >>> >> >> > Do you have them moments of where you feel as if you're being
>> >>> >> >> > mocho
>> >>> >> >> > or
>> >>> >> >> > tough upon holding feelings back and it seems nothing is 
>> >>> >> >> > going
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > push
>> >>> >> >> > you
>> >>> >> >> > over the edge?
>> >>> >> >> > I guess for some time, I felt that I was in denial of this
>> >>> >> >> > particular
>> >>> >> >> > situation bugging the creepers cheesers out of me and 
>> >>> >> >> > finally,
>> >>> >> >> > it
>> >>> >> >> > was
>> >>> >> >> > too
>> >>> >> >> > much.
>> >>> >> >> > I immediately went into melt down on the phone yesterday.
>> >>> >> >> > I started to feel in despair as I was losing an important 
>> >>> >> >> > battle
>> >>> >> >> > not
>> >>> >> >> > just
>> >>> >> >> > for myself, but for other people with disabilities who have
>> >>> >> >> > service
>> >>> >> >> > dogs
>> >>> >> >> > and important of all, guide dogs.
>> >>> >> >> > The big concern of why I was trying to hold everything back 
>> >>> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> > stay
>> >>> >> >> > as
>> >>> >> >> > calm as I could was to prevent a full blown severe asthma 
>> >>> >> >> > attack
>> >>> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> > another convulsive grandmal seizure too.
>> >>> >> >> > Eventually, everything was going to have to come out, one way 
>> >>> >> >> > or
>> >>> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> > other, despite a possible medical consequence.
>> >>> >> >> > I was told not to give up this battle and keep fighting for 
>> >>> >> >> > my
>> >>> >> >> > rights,
>> >>> >> >> > but
>> >>> >> >> > also for others as well.
>> >>> >> >> > Will post more once I am able to meet with the Colorado cross
>> >>> >> >> > Disability
>> >>> >> >> > Colision on Monday and it won't be just them either that will
>> >>> >> >> > get
>> >>> >> >> > another
>> >>> >> >> > update.
>> >>> >> >> > The Colorado Legal Aid Center for People with Disabilities 
>> >>> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> > Elderly
>> >>> >> >> > People will get it too.
>> >>> >> >> > I am not going to give up on this and if I have to do this
>> >>> >> >> > alone, it
>> >>> >> >> > is
>> >>> >> >> > still going to be won.
>> >>> >> >> > *Smiles*
>> >>> >> >> > Bibi and Odie
>> >>> >> >> > the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>> >>> >> >> >
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