[nagdu] Question

Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
Wed Oct 19 19:35:57 UTC 2011


People get possissive about their office chairs too. Really, I'm not making this up.
Brenda, I don't know if it's a crime to have someone touch you or your stuff. Just take the attitude and demeanour of "This is mine, you must ask my permission". People will get it.

You can and should speak up if you don't like how you're being treated.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brenda
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:21 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] Question

Is it illegal to just come up to someone and touch them?  What happens
if someone grabs me and I push them away?  How do I know they really
want to guide me somewhere, maybe they want to pick my pocket.

Can someone just come up and start fondling my purse or my umbrella or
whatever they see on my person that they would like to examine further?
Or my guide dog if I had one?  If someone grabs my purse, what happens
if I snatch it away from them and yell at them ?  True, I might think
they are trying to steel my purse, but what about my Victor Stream,
maybe they just want to look at it?

If it is wrong for people to come up to me and touch my things, why is
it not a crime to touch a guide dog.  It is not theirs - leave it alone.

Once at work I had someone start fidgeting with my monocular which was
sitting on my CCTV.  I told them to leave it alone and they got mad.
Later, they took my typing stand after I left for the day so they could
use it and didn't put it back.  I put a sign on it after that and they
left it alone.  They probably would have pet my  guide dog had I one at
the time.

I just don't understand why people think they can just pet a guide dog
and then get indignant when they are told  not to by the handler.  Are
there laws that can be applied to someone touching me or my umbrella or
my victor or my (someday) guide.

I'm just annoyed at the unfortunate crazy stories people have had the
occasion to tell of late on this list.  Nothing against the tellers,
just the perpetrators.

Brenda







On 10/16/2011 7:23 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> Julie, no, this was resorted to twice.  In both cases the persons were being overly aggressive.  They were blocking my way and were not listening to anything I was trying to tell them.  One person jumped in front of me and began to pet Holly.  I explained to him the usual and he told me he was a vet and basically in more colorful terms he'd do whatever he wanted!  He then threatened to kill my dog if he couldn't pet her so that's why he got the response he got!  The other was a woman who was being so persistant that I couldn't shake her.  Everywhere I turned she kept trying to touch Holly and get in my way.  I did have another woman who didn't touch Holly but kneeled down in front of us and would move every time we did so we couldn't get around her.  She wouldn't let me pass until I told her what kind of dog Holly was.  When I did she called me a liar and I actually had to step in the street to go around her!  No, that one only got some really goofy looks!
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