[nagdu] Question

Fri Oct 21 00:33:05 UTC 2011

Now, I usually just stop if someone starts pulling or pushing me about! 
They try and move me and I don't go!  Once when I was younger, I was waiting 
at the bust stop in Kalamazoo because my brother wasn't all that familiar 
with catching the bus.  I was waiting for him to make sure he got home ok 
when this man came up, grabbed my arm and pulled me accross the street.  I 
asked him exactly what he thaught he was doing.  He asked me if I was blind 
and I said yes.  He imformed me that he was helping me cross the street.  I 
replied that that would be fine if that's what I wanted to do and recrossed 
the street.  He was still offended but what could I do!  My brother is 
sighted by the way and he rarely took the bus.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question


>
>
> Then there are those times when someone is coming up to help you by 
> grabbing you and dragging you into the street... Or they grab your harness 
> handle with the same goal. Or while you're gettin gon the escalator...
>
> If there is a correct response to that, I would dearly love to hear it!
>
> And, really, by the time you get your hands on your cell phone and get the 
> cops called, what do you  say for starters? /lol/ If the person on the 
> other end of the line asks the obvious, what are you going to say? No, fo 
> course I can't desbribe him (he/it/whatever)! I'm blind. If I'm blind, why 
> am I upstet that this person helped me across the streeet? Huh? *You* try 
> it! /lol/
>
> So I haven't tried it, on those few occasionas where I felt that someone 
> in authority should do something about something to stop this sort of 
> thing. If I ever get a copy of my part of the script there, I'll certainly 
> give it a go. /grin/
>
> Tami
>
> On 10/16/2011 06:20 PM, Brenda wrote:
>> Is it illegal to just come up to someone and touch them? What happens if
>> someone grabs me and I push them away? How do I know they really want to
>> guide me somewhere, maybe they want to pick my pocket.
>>
>> Can someone just come up and start fondling my purse or my umbrella or
>> whatever they see on my person that they would like to examine further?
>> Or my guide dog if I had one? If someone grabs my purse, what happens if
>> I snatch it away from them and yell at them ? True, I might think they
>> are trying to steel my purse, but what about my Victor Stream, maybe
>> they just want to look at it?
>>
>> If it is wrong for people to come up to me and touch my things, why is
>> it not a crime to touch a guide dog. It is not theirs - leave it alone.
>>
>> Once at work I had someone start fidgeting with my monocular which was
>> sitting on my CCTV. I told them to leave it alone and they got mad.
>> Later, they took my typing stand after I left for the day so they could
>> use it and didn't put it back. I put a sign on it after that and they
>> left it alone. They probably would have pet my guide dog had I one at
>> the time.
>>
>> I just don't understand why people think they can just pet a guide dog
>> and then get indignant when they are told not to by the handler. Are
>> there laws that can be applied to someone touching me or my umbrella or
>> my victor or my (someday) guide.
>>
>> I'm just annoyed at the unfortunate crazy stories people have had the
>> occasion to tell of late on this list. Nothing against the tellers, just
>> the perpetrators.
>>
>> Brenda
>>
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>> On 10/16/2011 7:23 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> Julie, no, this was resorted to twice. In both cases the persons were
>>> being overly aggressive. They were blocking my way and were not
>>> listening to anything I was trying to tell them. One person jumped in
>>> front of me and began to pet Holly. I explained to him the usual and
>>> he told me he was a vet and basically in more colorful terms he'd do
>>> whatever he wanted! He then threatened to kill my dog if he couldn't
>>> pet her so that's why he got the response he got! The other was a
>>> woman who was being so persistant that I couldn't shake her.
>>> Everywhere I turned she kept trying to touch Holly and get in my way.
>>> I did have another woman who didn't touch Holly but kneeled down in
>>> front of us and would move every time we did so we couldn't get around
>>> her. She wouldn't let me pass until I told her what kind of dog Holly
>>> was. When I did she called me a liar and I actually had to step in the
>>> street to go around her! No, that one only got some really goofy looks!
>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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