[nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened

Mon Oct 31 17:17:43 UTC 2011

Hi all.

I am really enjoying this conversation and it reminds me that change is
something that comes with great difficulty in most instances.

While I understand the discussions about the impact of training with a new
guide as it relates to career, I am finding it hard to rationalize how going
home on a Tuesday rather than Thursday, in the case of the Seeing Eye
training schedule, will make much difference.  If you move the two days off
the end, that will be toward the end of your training and you still have
missed a substantial amount of work.  I would find it a little unrealistic
to think if that employer did decide to allow you to go to training that a
two day earlier return would be the determining factor in whether you keep
your job or not.  If it were to that point, you would know it before going
to training in the first place.

Please, please note that when I say you I am using it in the general sense.
I don't want anyone thinking I am singling them out because I am not.

I just think the issues that are being raised are easily dealt with by
talking with both your employer and the Seeing Eye...especially since they
offer home training.  There are options other than always taking a month off
from work...or as a retrain, 18 days with the new schedule.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:53 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened

Exactly. I could probably be away from work for a month, I did it when I had
my daughter. Still, I do need to ask myself from a career perspective if it
is worth doing to get a guide dog. And the answer is that while I did it
once, I'm not sure I'd do it again. A month is a long time. I worry about
the impact on my career should I have a match not work out or the dog not be
able to work soon after coming home.
I had to sell my work on why and how a dog would help me be a more effective
employee. It was very stressful.

Likewise, everybody understands having a baby, though I did see some
disparty in that v. what my male coworkers are asked, mostly I was asked
repeatedly when I would "go on maternity leave".  I pointed out that they
don't ask the guys when they will have heart attack, break bones, roll off
their bikes, and that they would deal with it just fine when I called and
said "I'm taking leave now".
I think some of this is a disparty in the same process fits many people, but
people get bogged in who v. what and that muddies things.
I also know that I couldn't be away from my daughter for a month. She needs
me in a way work never has.
I am not yet ready for another dog. I don't know when or if I will be. I do
know that the being away from home leans me toward the "no" side of the
house.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Shannon L. Dillon
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:35 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened

I agree with taking less time out of the work week for training and also for
providing in-home schedules for students.  We need to continue to remind
schools how important those alternatives are to us so that we can have our
guide dogs but maintain employment and families.
SHANNON L. DILLON

> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:02:41 -0400
> From: carcione at access.net
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened
>
> Hi Sam.
> If you're so moved, you might write to TSE and tell them how you feel. I
> wrote to gradservices, myself. I've heard of instances before when TSE
> changed things because graduates spoke up.
> Tracy
> > I agree. It makes sense to leave a few days early, as that would put you
> > close to the begining of a work week. I thought about posting that on
> > the TSE list, but let's just say that things are at the point where I'm
> > not willing to get in the middle of these arguments. Based on how things
> > are going with everything on there, I figure it is better to stay
neutral.
> > On 10/30/2011 10:23 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
> >> I'm glad class is a little shorter, but I'm a bit annoyed that it's the
> >> weekend they've cut off. For me, arranging time off work is the hardest
> >> part of getting ready for class. I would be a lot happier if they'd
> >> start
> >> on Saturday and drop a couple workdays at the end. Am I the only person
> >> who feels this way?
> >> Tracy
> >>
> >>> I think that there is just a little less down time. That was the
length
> >>> of
> >>> my last class; I thought it was more challenging, or invigorating.
> >>> CL
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Jewel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What effect, if any, will this have on the training sessions? It
seems
> >>>> it gives people less time to get acclimated to the area, but do
people
> >>>> need that extra time?
> >>>>
> >>>> Curious,
> >>>> Jewel
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/29/11, Margo and Arrow<margo.downey at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "The Seeing Eye, Inc."<noreply at seeingeye.org>
> >>>>> To: "Margo Downey"<margo.downey at verizon.net>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:11 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Graduates,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At The Seeing Eye, we've always been committed to serving our
> >>>>> students
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> the best way possible. Over the years, many students have asked if
it
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> be possible to have a shorter stay here in order to return to their
> >>>>> friends,
> >>>>> families, and jobs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In response, we've streamlined our training process in order to
allow
> >>>>> our
> >>>>> students to get home as quickly as possible. Starting with our first
> >>>>> class
> >>>>> in January, we will be able to reduce the time students spend on
> >>>>> campus
> >>>>> by
> >>>>> two days. Instead of arriving Saturday, students will now arrive on
> >>>>> Monday.
> >>>>> This will enable you to return home in two fewer days - retraining
> >>>>> students
> >>>>> will stay for 18 days, and new students for 25 days.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Information on the updated class dates for 2012 can be found at:
> >>>>> http://www.SeeingEye.org/Schedule
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Johnson
> >>>>> Director of Instruction& Training
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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