[nagdu] Introduction Re: Canes With Dogs

Thu Sep 1 03:55:41 UTC 2011

Hello Cindy,
You are right, I was on Music list and  I'm there from time to time I play a
guitar and   I was writing songs there are some  my old home recordings on
myspace.com/tatyanagr
in awful quality though because of  website compression.
Yes, you are absolutely right,  I'm already overwhelmed by information,
because it's not just an info but   all postings are  personal and all have
their emotions and perspectives. It's interesting and useful though. And I
think I need to meet someone here, in D.C./MD area. Meeting with real people
and seeing  how that is in reality to have a dog.
So if anybody is around here  or knows where I could meet dog users please
let me know.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction Re: Canes With Dogs

Tatyana, you are a musician, too, yes? I saw you on another list a long time
ago.

Here's the deal. If you get well trained, you can travel about successfully
and freely with a cane. You can put that cane in the corner when you get
home and you don't have to worry about it any more until you are going out
again. If you have a dog, you have responsibilities for that dog. It needs
to be relieved, groomed, exercised, played with, and worked. If you love
dogs or think there is a chance you would, then the dog is rule a good plan.
I made the decision to use a dog because I was having some problems with my
hands. Using the dog would not be the same repetitive motion as the cane. I
loved caring for the dog way more than I loved working it, but I got over it
because I had some marvelous dogs in the time I have used dogs. Just don't
let yourself become overwhelmed with advice and question answers because
most likely you will be in training several weeks. Some of your questions
will be answered in that way; then as you have the dog and have questions,
you will be able to get information that will be more helpful to you because
of the experience you have had. Please don't think I'm trying to keep you
from asking questions, but I'm just saying, do be careful not to go into
information overload. If you love dogs and don't mind the responsibility of
one, then the responsibility won't be any kind of problem, and you will do
well with a dog. I do hope that if you decide to have one, you and your
teammate will have lots of happy trails together, and I am happy you are
anxious to get information as to what it means to have a dog.

Cindy

On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Tatyana wrote:

> Hi Maria  and all,
> To  your question,
> I'm originally from Russia and live in Maryland USA.  I followed my
> husband
> who's Russian too. I didn't speak English  and it took time   and efforts
> to
> learn  the language  and get used  to new life. It wasn't easy,
> especially
> if you are blind and your communication skills double complicated  because
> of language barrier and blindness.  I had to work on my mobility skills-
> they are not perfect though.  I was thinking about a dog  perhaps it would
> give me more freedom and perhaps it  would expand my friends circle as you
> were  networking and actually went  on streets, get places that you think
> you'd never get yourself. Having a dog as I feel a life decision like
> getting a new family member. My sighted friends who have pets try to
> convince me that it's fun and not too hard to have a dog.  I think before
> taking responsibility for a dog that was trained and many great people
> were
> involved in its life , from volunteers who raze the poppies  to trainers,
> I
> need to be sure that I kno what I'm doing getting a dog. For canes and
> dogs,
> I'm not sure how it's taught in Russian, I need to ask my friends there.
>
> Hope to see you on the list
> Tatyana
> ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mária Orovcíková"
> <maria.orovcikova at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:20 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] Introduction Re: Canes With Dogs
>
>
>> Hi to all,
>> I am not sure if you remember me, but some of you might do as I have
>> posted a message asking for help with a guide dog command which I needed
>> for my thesys at that time. But it was quite a while ago (sometime last
>> year or a bit more).
>> I am very sorry I haven't posted since, but I have been busy with school
>> things . I've been still reading the list and I find it very useful.
>> Before I write something about myself for those who don't know me yet, I
>> would like to thank all of you for great help I got from you last year.
>> So my name is Maria. I live in Slovakia (Central Europe). I have
>> graduated
>> from university last month. My major was English and special education
>> for
>> blind and visually impaired. I got a master degree.
>> I have a guide dog, her name is demi and she is a black labrador. We have
>> been together for seven years. She does not help me only in guiding and
>> orientation,
>> but as I have a mild cerebral palsy and have balance problem sometimes,
>> she is great helper in this case as well.
>> I have something to comment on Tatiana's post.
>> So Tatiana, if you do not mind me asking, where are you from?
>> This question just came on my mind as I have read your question about
>> using a cane with a guide dog at the same time.
>> Here in my country, guide dog handlers are trained to use a guide dog and
>> a cane together. It is not a regular cane, but just a short folding
>> signalling cane like Larry has mentioned.
>> As far as I know, they train dogs that way in some other countries like
>> Czech Republic for example.
>> If you have more questions regarding training guide dogs or anything,
>> feel
>> free to ask.
>> With regards
>> Maria
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:48 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Canes With Dogs
>>
>>
>>> The only thing I've seen is people with the short walking cane with
>>> dogs.
>>> Tatyana, I see no need to use both at the same time although I keep a
>>> cane in my backpack.  In case I want to run to the bathroom when Holly
>>> is
>>> on a tiedown at the bowling ally or some such thing.
>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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