[nagdu] Stress Issues

Tue Sep 6 00:53:29 UTC 2011

have you tryed using a gentle leader or halty?

Julie Phillipson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lora" <blindhistory at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Stress Issues

>I am very concerned if he gets loose outside that he won't come back.
> As far as getting things off the floor i t has been affecting his
> guide work and he dives for things on the floor in harness too. The
> problem is that he eats dangerous things like poisonous plants safety
> pins etc.
>
> On 9/5/11, Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>> Well, none of you will like this  but, maybe don't worry so much if your 
>> dog
>> gets things off the floor in your apartment, if your roommate drops
>> something and he eats it, just let it go and say tomorrow's another day.
>> Or just tell him not to do it, put him on leash temporarily and let him 
>> go
>> again.
>> He may just be an exuberant dog who's pretty determined and you might 
>> just
>> have to let things ride a bit.
>> Carter is a great working dog but he can get in to things or try to steal
>> things, it's part of being a dog.
>>
>> Now, what I don't know is whether your roommate has a melt-down every 
>> time
>> that happens--smile.
>>
>> If outside, the main thing that would worry me is if she, or he got loose
>> and you couldn't get the dog back.
>>
>> You're obviously feeling stressed an that's also contributing.
>> I've gone through this and I suspect what is happening could be, every 
>> time
>> you let your pup loose in doors you're on tenterhooks because you think 
>> the
>> pup's getting in to something.
>>
>> Now, having said all of that, I do think the school should feel a little
>> ridiculous saying that it  is "just not an off leash dog".
>>
>> All of my dogs, though, have done mischievous things indoors sooner or 
>> later
>> and I'm afraid that for the most part I didn't put them on a 24 hour 
>> leash
>> or tie-down regimen.  I suspect I'm flying in the face of the party line 
>> but
>> it worked out for me.
>> The only time Carter's on leash at home is if someone new is coming to 
>> the
>> door because he gests too excited and wants to run out the door and take 
>> his
>> time getting back in, and if I think someone left food on the counter.
>> He's on leash at home very rarely...oh, and yes when the cleaning lady 
>> comes
>> because she's afraid he's going to bite even though he won't--lol.
>>
>>
>> So, that's maybe one half of a percent of the time--smile.  That isn't
>> saying that you're doing things wrong, but I think it's the ideal not to
>> have your dog under wraps 24/7.
>>
>>
>> Dan the man, Carter the nut
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Lora
>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:11 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Stress Issues
>>
>> My dog eats things off the ground even though I try and pick up. He tries 
>> to
>> eat things off the edge of tables. He tries to drink out of my roommates 
>> cup
>> even though he has fresh water in his bowl. Off leash outside he gets 
>> into
>> the garden and eats produce eats grass all the time and anything else he 
>> can
>> find to put in his mouth even though he has a toy outside. If I have the
>> door closed to my room he will lay next to me but that's about it. If my
>> roommate accidentally drops something my dog immediately comes over and 
>> eats
>> it. I'm not trying to be a pesamist just trying to explain.
>>
>> On 9/5/11, Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>> Well, remember, none of us know you and your dog, unfortunately.
>>> But, what exactly are the issues you have off-leash.
>>> My personal inclination, and it sounds like I'm being mean but I'm
>>> really not trying to be, just being blunt, is that maybe the dog's
>>> being stressed because you feel the need or you've had to micromanage
>>> him, keeping him, or her, on leash or tie-down, or the crate.
>>> So, I'm just curious what does he/she do when say you let him off
>>> leash at home, does he get in to things, maybe you can just let him
>>> off leash when you're at home in your dorm room or whatever?
>>>
>>> I realize the way it sounds is as if I were lambasting you, but I'm
>>> not trying to, I'm more trying to be a detective to see what's the 
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> I've known one or two people who's dogs were stressed because it turns
>>> out, they just got no freedom whatsoever, every move they make was
>>> being regulated because the handler was so nervous about what would
>> happen.
>>>
>>> Dan the man, Carter the nut
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:44 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Stress Issues
>>>
>>> Wow! I don't think "I guess this dog just can't be an off leash dog"
>>> is really an acceptable answer. I have had a batch of dogs and several
>>> problems, but I never had one that had to always be tied, leashed, or
>>> crated. Cindy
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Lora wrote:
>>>
>>>> My school gave me lots of methods that I tried to get this dog to
>>>> listen of leash and finally the school was like well I guess this dog
>>>> can't be an off leash dog.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I can't remember if you have spoken to the school about this. You
>>>>> shouldn't have lots of off leash problems with him at this point. If
>>>>> it was stress though, wouldn't his guiding be affected, too? I don't
>>>>> really know. I had a dog once that the vet said was stress drinking,
>>>>> but she was a good working dog. I hope someone can help you more
>>>>> than I
>>> can apparently help.
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Lora wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had him for about a year. I know I have a very busy lifestyle.
>>>>>> His guide work is amazing and I like him as a dog. His off leash
>>>>>> issues are about the only issue. I've had previous dogs that have
>>>>>> had lots of problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I can't remember how long you have had this dog. Weren't you
>>>>>>> having trouble with him from the time you got him? I can't
>>>>>>> remember for sure. I can't remember where he came from either,
>>>>>>> though in the end that wouldn't matter.
>>>>>>> Why do you think he has so much stress in his life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Lora wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello List:
>>>>>>>> I know we've probably had this discussion before but I would
>>>>>>>> appreciate it if we could have it again. My dog is loosing a lot
>>>>>>>> of hair and I think it is due to stress since he is on a good
>>>>>>>> diet. I can't trust him off leash since he doesn't listen at all.
>>>>>>>> I have tried letting him play on a flexilead but he won't run
>>>>>>>> around. I play with him tug of war and other games like that but
>>>>>>>> I don't think he's getting enough stress out of his life. Do you
>>>>>>>> have
>>> any suggestions?
>>>>>>>> Thank You.
>>>>>>>>
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