[nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Sep 8 16:45:47 UTC 2011


That must be a poodle thing!  Holly and for that matter Pez can curl up 
extremely small!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications


> Tami,
>
> It's interesting that Monty is much easier to fit into small spaces than 
> Belle ever was.  Belle is 24 or 25 inches at the shoulder and about 75 
> pounds.  Monty is like 27 inches tall and 85 pounds.  However he curls up. 
> Belle is not an adept curler.
>
> I don't think I could work with one of the tiny guides that are so popular 
> these days.  Well tiny to me.  To everyone else they are normal sized! 
> *smile*  I really enjoy my big and tall dog.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 9/8/2011 10:45 AM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>> Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
>> interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the guide dog
>> world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
>> another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
>> reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one through a
>> program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide Dog of
>> the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from them just
>> because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
>> with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent. Still, it's
>> an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
>> owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in place to do
>> that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another reason I'm
>> interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie guides. They
>> are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm mournfully
>> emptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of course, I am
>> reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy poodle and
>> can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
>>
>> I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
>> around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
>> months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
>> understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally cracked me
>> and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the breed, so I
>> got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
>> against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
>> spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and started
>> to fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on about the size of
>> his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
>> doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do you put
>> all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new doodle guide
>> user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her. I can't
>> figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
>> She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the Honored
>> Citizen (ha
>> !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
>> leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty sure the
>> poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
>> just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles down safely
>> and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and ... I
>> should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
>> when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered as a
>> guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
>>
>> And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the yellow ones,
>> since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
>> and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
>> contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so numerous, and
>> why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to be just
>> so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
>> taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long ago. I
>> found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than Mitzi and
>> about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some 'tude out
>> of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not to be too
>> strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and they work
>> together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
>> well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just totally
>> laid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I wondered? Nah...
>> When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having such a
>> lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
>> with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
>>
>> Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they actually 
>>> breed
>>> them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I think that the
>>> doodles are donated.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tami Kinney"<tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To:<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>>>
>>>
>>>> Gary,
>>>>
>>>> Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide Dogs of the
>>>> Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but they do seem
>>>> to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait for a
>>>> poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy with their
>>>> experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with many grads in
>>>> this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that program, which
>>>> is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have learned a
>>>> whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi, because that's
>>>> where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other breeds, but
>>>> they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
>>>> though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one; however, you
>>>> will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle users around
>>>> here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
>>>>
>>>> Tami
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>>>>> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle so was
>>>>> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork into all the
>>>>> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the following may. I
>>>>> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would have been
>>>>> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been about a 
>>>>> year
>>>>> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself for such 
>>>>> long
>>>>> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority of the 
>>>>> needs
>>>>> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It is always
>>>>> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs to get 
>>>>> their
>>>>> feelings on the school as long as you remember that  everyone is
>>>>> different so their impressions will vary as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Julie McGinnity<kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Miranda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
>>>>>> one.  I took
>>>>>> the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a student and
>>>>>> was at the
>>>>>> time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere that could 
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an interview
>>>>>> in a month and
>>>>>> a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
>>>>>> that.  I think
>>>>>> it usually takes longer though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
>>>>>> abnormal to
>>>>>> call and check on things.  It is also easy if you can email
>>>>>> someone in
>>>>>> admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--if it has
>>>>>> been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
>>>>>> with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray<cindyray at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
>>>>>> all, I suspect
>>>>>>> that sometimes these things go slower because of vacations and
>>>>>> the like.
>>>>>>> Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
>>>>>> training dogs and the
>>>>>>> like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
>>>>>> some kind of
>>>>>>> time line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>   Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member
>>>>>> in Opera
>>>>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>>>>>> Eyes for the Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>> life."
>>>>>> John 3:16
>>>>>>
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