[nagdu] School Applications

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Sep 8 16:53:05 UTC 2011


Not Holly!  She has to sit on the bus and try and creep up to watch everyone 
get on!  She doesn't usually lie down unfortunately!  She does everywhere 
else though!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications


>
> Hi Tami:
>
> Oh, yeah, the poodle natural tendancy  to slowly expand once lying down is 
> just too much fun at rush hour on the bus. I was on a super crowded bus 
> last week and bogart had lied down. I then usually have to sort of slide 
> him back a bit to put his butt under the seat better but still his paws 
> and head are sticking out. I just don't trust zoned out people and it 
> would be a a drag if someone stepped on his paw but his head??? So I 
> reachedown and lifted bogarts heead up and said pay attention. He did for 
> a minute or two and then decided that there was nothing to pay attention 
> to and put his head back on the floor between everyones feet. Big Sigh! So 
> then I lifted his head and lifted my foot up so I had my toes in the air 
> and heal on the ground and set Bogart's head on my now higher up toe. He 
> found this an acceptaable arrangement. The fellow next to me said "He 
> would be a good dog if he could just learn to relax eh?" which we both had 
> a big chuckle about. Bogart certainly has relaxing on the bus down to a 
> science when he feels like it.
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tami Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>
>> Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
>> interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the
>> guide dog
>> world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
>> another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
>> reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one
>> through a
>> program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide
>> Dog of
>> the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from
>> them just
>> because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
>> with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent.
>> Still, it's
>> an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
>> owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in
>> place to do
>> that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another
>> reason I'm
>> interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie
>> guides. They
>> are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm
>> mournfullyemptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of
>> course, I am
>> reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy
>> poodle and
>> can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
>>
>> I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
>> around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
>> months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
>> understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally
>> cracked me
>> and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the
>> breed, so I
>> got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
>> against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
>> spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and
>> startedto fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on
>> about the size of
>> his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
>> doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do
>> you put
>> all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new
>> doodle guide
>> user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her.
>> I can't
>> figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
>> She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the
>> HonoredCitizen (ha
>> !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
>> leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty
>> sure the
>> poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
>> just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles
>> down safely
>> and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and
>> ... I
>> should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
>> when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered
>> as a
>> guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
>>
>> And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the
>> yellow ones,
>> since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
>> and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
>> contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so
>> numerous, and
>> why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to
>> be just
>> so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
>> taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long
>> ago. I
>> found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than
>> Mitzi and
>> about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some
>> 'tude out
>> of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not
>> to be too
>> strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and
>> they work
>> together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
>> well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just
>> totallylaid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I
>> wondered? Nah...
>> When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having
>> such a
>> lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
>> with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
>>
>> Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> > Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they
>> actually breed
>> > them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I
>> think that the
>> > doodles are donated.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> > To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >
>> >
>> > > Gary,
>> > >
>> > > Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide
>> Dogs of the
>> > > Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but
>> they do seem
>> > > to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait
>> for a
>> > > poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy
>> with their
>> > > experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with
>> many grads in
>> > > this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that
>> program, which
>> > > is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have
>> learned a
>> > > whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi,
>> because that's
>> > > where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other
>> breeds, but
>> > > they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
>> > > though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one;
>> however, you
>> > > will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle
>> users around
>> > > here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
>> > >
>> > > Tami
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>> > >> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle
>> so was
>> > >> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork
>> into all the
>> > >> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the
>> following may. I
>> > >> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would
>> have been
>> > >> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been
>> about a year
>> > >> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself
>> for such long
>> > >> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
>> > >>
>> > >> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority
>> of the needs
>> > >> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It
>> is always
>> > >> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs
>> to get their
>> > >> feelings on the school as long as you remember that
>> everyone is
>> > >> different so their impressions will vary as well.
>> > >>
>> > >> Gary
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> > >> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
>> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>> Dog Users"
>> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi Miranda.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
>> > >> > one.  I took
>> > >> > the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a
>> student and
>> > >> > was at the
>> > >> > time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere
>> that could place
>> > >> > me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an
>> interview> >> > in a month and
>> > >> > a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
>> > >> > that.  I think
>> > >> > it usually takes longer though.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
>> > >> > abnormal to
>> > >> > call and check on things.  It is also easy if you
>> can email
>> > >> > someone in
>> > >> > admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--
>> if it has
>> > >> > been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
>> > >> > with this.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Good luck!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
>> > >> > all, I suspect
>> > >> > > that sometimes these things go slower because of
>> vacations and
>> > >> > the like.
>> > >> > > Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
>> > >> > training dogs and the
>> > >> > > like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
>> > >> > some kind of
>> > >> > > time line.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
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